God needs Devil to make the show?

Saint

Saint

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You can see that the story of Bible is actually a show about the fight between God and Satan.

By theory, God exists first, without Him nothing can exist.

If God did not create anything, he got nothing to do, right?
He purposely created angles that have the probability to become evil (christians do not like to say "God created devil"), and then humans,
so that God got something to do.

Is it right?
 
Saint,

You can see that the story of Bible is actually a show about the fight between God and Satan.
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Quite possibly, but an actual fight between God and Satan would be a no brainer as to who would win.
I think the bible is about the masculine and feminine nature, Adam representing the masculine, and Eve the feminine.
Note that the feminie aspect is born out of the masculine. The Bible inadvertantly tells of the different natures and how they act upon the living entity, the consequences of imbalance. God represents spirit/male and Satan represent matter/female.

Eve the feminine representation of Adam becomes seduced, and Adam, representing the masculine, makes the choice to follow his passion (Eve), hence the fall begins. Prior to the personification of Adam's feminine desires (Eve), there was a balance.

By theory, God exists first, without Him nothing can exist.
If God did not create anything, he got nothing to do, right?
He purposely created angles that have the probability to become evil (christians do not like to say "God created devil"), and then humans,
so that God got something to do.
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That suggests that God is alone, so He creates toys to amuse Himself. This is a misconception in my view, one that has become the dominant idea since the putting together of the Bible.
It leads us to believe that Adam and Eve were the first of these toys, a bored Supreme Being decided to create so that He
could have some company. The script itself (Bible), which is incomplete, and put together to give a specific interpretation, does not support that idea.



Is it right?
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I don't think so.
I think it is a western depiction of God, designed for the western mind.

jan
 
Jan Ardena said:
Quite possibly, but an actual fight between God and Satan would be a no brainer as to who would win.
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That depends on whose propaganda you believe. For all we know, the God of the Bible might be a little nobody who's just puffing himself up.
 
Who is God? Who is Satan? I theorize God is the father, Love. Satan is the winged evil son of all the universe, the mighty angel Tempt.

This is no show. These are natural feeling to the universe that can not co-exist on the same Heavenly plain if there be a perfect eternity for good & evil alike.
 
kx000 said:
Who is God? Who is Satan? I theorize God is the father, Love. Satan is the winged evil son of all the universe, the mighty angel Tempt.

This is no show. These are natural feeling to the universe that can not co-exist on the same Heavenly plain if there be a perfect eternity for good & evil alike.
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Who is the universe?

jan.
 
sideshowbob said:
I'm saying that there could be two different stories. Why do you accept God's version hook, line and sinker? What if Satan is really the good guy?
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It's not really about ''good guys'' and ''bad guys''.
God is summum bonum, that is what it means. If Lucifer were summum bonum, then he would be God, not Lucifer.
The stories are indicative of our own struggles, so that at some point we can find our way back to God, or to reality.

jan.
 
sideshowbob said:
Exactly. But how do you know which is which? What if Lucifer sent his only-begotten son to muddy the water by spreading evil in the name of good?
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If Lucifer were God, then he would be God, not Lucifer.
God represents reality, and Lucifer represent illusion, and both states are within us, so it is therefore up to us
to utilise our intelligence, to discriminate.

jan.

jan.
 
Jan Ardena said:
God represents reality, and Lucifer represent illusion, and both states are within us, so it is therefore up to us
to utilise our intelligence, to discriminate.
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Again... how do you know that? How do you know that the "God" in the storoes IS God? How do you know that HIS ideas aren't the illusions?
 
sideshowbob said:
Again... how do you know that? How do you know that the "God" in the storoes IS God? How do you know that HIS ideas aren't the illusions?
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You're missing the point. I don't read the stories then decide to believe that is true. I relate to the stories via experience.
The stories are merely representations of the turmoil. For example someone may have an excellent explanation of what it's like
to lose someone close to you. But untill they experience it, they can never know it. If after years of speculation that person does lose someone close to them, then they will be able to discriminate between the speculative explanations, and the explanations born out of experience.

jan.
 
If there is a God why doesn't he just put in a personal appearance and clear up any misconceptions on the subject?:D
 
Yet he (since the Abrahamic god created a patriarchal society/religion must be referred to as a male)only appears to group of primitive, desert dwelling people who had no real forms off mass communication or for all practical matters any form of a scientific method to question the claims.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSyC8HgkvB8
 
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