Re: Jenyar, address the question
Originally posted by GodLied
Describing Judgement Day does not answer the question: When will Judgement Day happen?
Joel 2:31-32, according to your quote, suggests what happens on Judgement Day. That does not give an answer to when Judgement Day will occur. In addition, your other quotes do not address the question: When will Judgement Day happen?
Mark 13:32
"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
It will come like a thief in the night, therefore nobody knows. The only "condition" I could find was this one,
2 Thessalonians 2
Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.
You claim in one sentence that everyone will be judged and then you say people may become immune from judgement by being immortal. That contradiction is clear. Do you know that you cannot keep to one stance?
I.e.,
nobody is immune to judgement from He who
gives life.
I'm surprised you didn't think further than the apparent contradiction. Is this how you read the Bible as well?
Well, to help you out, Revelations 6:10 asks the question: When will Judgement Day happen? That question is answered in Revelations 6:11: Judgement Day begins when all Xians die as they have died. Because guns did not exist back then, guns and other modern weapons cannot be used to exterminate Xians to initiate Judgement Day. Guns, missiles, tanks, metal boats, planes, bombs, modern metals, and so on cannot be used to exterminate Xians to start Judgement Day. That inherent difficulty coupled with the distribution and population of Xians shows there is no likely way Judgement Day will ever materialize.
The second coming of Christ will be the event which calls the remainder (the 144 000 in white robes) to Him. That is when God will separate the sheep and the goats:
Matthew 25:32
All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.
What you think has to be physical martyrdom might only be Judgement itself, when God calls those believers who have not died yet to Him.
Oh, your not correcting me in regard to thermonuclear war as a possible means to initiate Judgement Day shows you did not read Revelations 6:11. If you did read it you would have known modern weapons cannot be used in exterminating Xians to initialize Judgement Day. Judgement Day must be initialized with archaic technology only.
It's amazing how you impose your own limits on what God can or can't do. The prophesies in the Bible aren't limited to the culture in which they were written! Did you read the rest of Revelation after chapter 6? It's hard to know the difference between the dead who were resurrected and those still living. For instance,
Rev. 14: "13 Then I heard a voice from heaven say, Write: Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on." This is
after all the Saints are supposed to be dead, according to you.
You can't impose your own artificial conditions just as you like. These prophets probably saw things in their visions that they could only describe with difficulty. Does the following describe any "archaic technology" you are familiar with?
Rev.9
7 The locusts looked like horses prepared for battle. On their heads they wore something like crowns of gold, and their faces resembled human faces.
8 Their hair was like women's hair, and their teeth were like lions' teeth.
9 They had breastplates like breastplates of iron, and the sound of their wings was like the thundering of many horses and chariots rushing into battle.
10 They had tails and stings like scorpions, and in their tails they had power to torment people for five months.
