Point 1. You seem to be suggesting that all behaviour that deserves punishment is attributable to parental failure. Did you know that if you were a Russian journalist and you wrote anything critical of Vladimir Putin or his regime, suddenly your life expectancy would be greatly truncated? Is this because poor little Vlady was let down by his parents, or because Mr. Putin is an evil man? Is every murderer, rapist, extortioner, child molester, tax dodger, etc. who appears before a judge the product of inadequate parenting?
Point 2. I assume you have in mind "Jacob I loved but Esau I hated" (Romans 9:10-13). Now, it's clear from the context of the passage that Paul is quoting (Malachi 1:2-4) that he is referring to the nation rather than the man. However, let's assume that he is referring to Esau the man. Why did God love Jacob, who was a mean, self-advancing trickster and hate Esau, who just got on with life as best he could? The answer is that God could work with Jacob and make him into the man that He wanted him to be, whereas Esau was only interested in his belly. So, how did God demonstrate His hatred of Esau? Well, we know that Esau enjoyed rugged health throughout his life, that he lived to a good old age, that he had 12 sons, each of whom became a tribal chief in his own right, and that he became the patriarch of the nation called after him (Edom, which was Esau's nick-name). This sounds like the description of a man living under divine blessing. You might even be forgiven for concluding that God really loved him after all. Maybe he really loves you, too!
Point 1.
Have a look at how we learn things and are locked into mimicry even more than some creatures we place below us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIAoJsS9Ix8&feature=related
As you can surmise, rearing is how we learn. The parents have the responsibility to teach children in their early years and then society and perrs take over. People, good or evil are thus created by all human interactions as well as our own selfish genes and instincts. So yes, it is to parents and all of us tat deserve the kudos or blame. Let us allow for those who are born insane or otherwise not normal It could be said that they are to blame for what they are along with nature. I think they would be the only exceptions. Judges tend to revue apersons upbringing and social circumstances when they make a judgement. A wife beater for instance usually comes from a family where wife beating was the norm. That link has been shown clearly enough for a judge to consider it in sentencing.
Point 2.
Your dogma says that we cannot fathom God so I have no idea as to why he would hate someone even in the womb.
Your God though does seem to reward evil. For instance; he gave Satan, who is supposed to be sentenced to hell, the gift of dominion on earth and the ability to deceive us all.
Not to hijack this O P but I happen to be working on something that speaks to this.
Why does God hate babies who have not sinned?
Scriptures indicate that God knows that babies in the womb have not done anything good or evil. They also indicate that God hates some babies even while in the womb and innocent. It is also said that God creates us and our characters. Our characters, as we evolve, cannot help but do evil. God then is responsible for the evil that we will do as he has created our natures. Natures that we cannot help but follow.
We can blame our free will and the choices we make for the evil that we do but this does not explain why our God created natures decide to do evil. Theistic evolutionists try to explain this paradox but the average literalist or fundamental Christian does not follow their reasoning.
We have no choice and no free will to deviate from our God given sin nature and God would know this as it is was all planned. Jesus was to die even before man was created. That is why Adam’s sin is called a necessary sin.
If we have no choice in following our sin natures, and cannot deviate from our part in God’s plan, then what is God’s reason for punishing us for being exactly what he created and programmed us to do?
That is why Adam’s sin is called a necessary sin. He could not help but sin and neither can any of us. You cannot help but do evil and thus sin.
This is all rather abstract so if you like I will imagine a viable scenario for us to work with. We all know that many are starving to death in various countries. Imagine one of these starving children walking past a farmer’s apple tree. The child knows that if he steals the apples that the farmer’s family will starve to death. He or she has a choice of either stealing apples to prevent their death or not. The survival instinct being our first instinct, I think apples will be eaten.
That child’s God given nature will choose life, as all natures do by default, and eat an apple. Does that child deserve hell when it’s God given nature drove it to sin?
We cannot do anything but follow our basic God given natures. Do we deserve hell for doing so?
Is God’s punishment unjust?
If sin was required for Jesus to manifest, Adam had to sin. Would his punishment and death have also been unjust?
Did God, knowing Adam would be a sinner and cause God’s/Jesus’ death, hate Adam as well when he was creating him?
Regards
DL
This clip explains theistic evolution and how you cannot help but do evil and sin.
http://www.youtube.com/user/ProfMTH#g/c/6F8036F680C1DBEB
