Fresh canned pigs feet!

Ah, lamb's liver, well I know that. What we do, is pan fry thin floured slices of it in butter and serve it juicy and as pink as we can get it without it oozing blood.

Here in Cyprus you can buy sheep's and Bull's balls, but I think they're strictly for connoseurs. Most people here prefer the 'white' liver, which of course is lung and which is actually quite delicious simply fried on its own or with eggs beaten into it and served with lots of lemon juice.

My wife's favourite bit of chicken is 'the parson's nose', or the ass hole in layman's Greek. My favourite piece of ass is the wife's :D
 
One of Chevy Chase's good films is a little-known 1988 farce called Funny Farm. It has a lamb-fry gag in it ... (hmm ... no pun intended, but hey!) .... Most people I know who recognize the phrase "lamb fries" get it from that film. Even the ones who grew up on farms.
 
tiassa said:
Chorizo is a cased lymph and snout, and is popular among Hispanics in the U.S.

Chorizo actually consists of lean pork/bovine, fat, salt, garlic and sweet/spicy pepper. It's pretty much the Spanish salami.
 
Tiassa

I'm vaguely aware of the scene and I can't really remember it, but from what you said, the words, oral and sex spring to mind. I might be wrong, but those words spring to mind often anyway.
 
Chorizo

But what parts of pig or cow? It's my opinion that they shouldn't put such specific ingredients on packages, else I would agree with you outright, Fadeaway. The only real difference is a matter of specifics, and I only ever looked at one brand of chorizo, and that out of curiosity. Perhaps it differs from brand to brand.

Note on edit: A .pdf of a chorizo recipe is available at http://www.ag.auburn.edu/~ckerth/470/classnotes/recipes/CHORIZO.PDF ... Auburn University, no less.

And again: A recipe available at Cooks.com relates the following note:

You might like this version after you read the list of ingredients on a commercial label. Lymph nodes and salivary glands are not included in the above recipe!

Cooks.com

As a last note, and hopefully to duck any further edits, a thread on chorizo from TalkBass presents a contrast:

Munjibunga: I just re-read the label on a package of chorizo sausage down at the local taqueria. Oh, I knew what was in there, but a little refresher doesn't hurt now and then, just to keep me from trying it. Now, as you may be aware, the contents must be listed in descending order of their abundance in the product. So let's see ... what's most plentiful in this food product?

OK, you got your pork lymph nodes. Yum. Followed by pork salivary glands, cheeks, tongue, fat, and other pork by-products (the stuff that, if they told you what it was, you'd spew without even tasting it). Then you got your salt, spices, peppers and the all-important sodium nitrite.

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Mark Latimour: Hey I dig Chorizo...but do they really go to that level of detail on the labelling in the USA? On ours it would just say like:

Pork 75%
Wheat 15%
Water 5%
Preservative (629) 1% etc


TalkBass.com
 
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tiassa, my good man, I'm a Spaniard. You don't have to tell me what chorizo is. We invented it. My grandma made it with her own hands. People everywhere can make any number of variations on the original basis and still call them chorizo. There's little I can do about it. That said, the "chorizo sausage" in your first link doesn't sound bad at all.

Here, in case you know some Spanish (yes, the good ones are entirely pork based):
http://www.uco.es/organiza/departamentos/prod-animal/economia/dehesa/chorizo.htm

I'd send you one, but if you are in the States, I'm afraid they would confiscate it and dispose of it as nuclear waste. Tragic, really.
 
Fadeaway Humper said:

I'm a Spaniard. You don't have to tell me what chorizo is

Hardly my point, good sir. You chose to correct me; I thought to at least justify myself; the first recipe is more toward your explanation, the second two toward mine. Frankly I don't care if you invented it or not. Chorizo, as it is sold in this country in a grocery store, is disgusting.

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Tablariddim said:

I'm vaguely aware of the scene and I can't really remember it, but from what you said, the words, oral and sex spring to mind. I might be wrong, but those words spring to mind often anyway.

There might be some sex in that film--it's been years since I've seen it--but the scene involves Chevy Chase, as a New York writer moved to the upstate countryside, or even into Vermont, approaches a new record for lamb fries eaten at a local cafe until they tell him what he's actually eating. Martin Short could have done the scene better, but he wouldn't have fit with the rest of the movie.
 
They're sheep testicles. He does a sort-of spit-take that Short definitely could have done better. As a savvy, cosmopolitan New Yorker, Chase is surprised to find out such food exists. His wife, as I recall, does the whole mix of disgust and embarrassment, looking down, shading her eyes with one hand, and shaking her head.

In asking around our classmates who lived on farms, nobody had really heard of the dish, though we would later learn the phrase "Rocky Mountain Oysters" for testicles as a delicacy.
 
ive heard a lot of people talk about rocky mountain oysters (I grew up out in the sticks..), but never heard of anyone actually eating 'em. personally i'd have to pass on a big plate of balls.... but there probably not bad for you!
 
0scar said:
What do you think about companies marketing microwave dinners as ‘gourmet’ or canned fruit and frozen vegetables as ‘fresh’?
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Come on buddy, thats like saying what's the go with macca's (mac donalds) marketing there apple pies as real apple, and there hamburgers as real meat, or even worse there icecream as real ice cream. Marketing is another word for bullshit, as long as you have half a brain you can see through it anyways.
I was doing a marketing course and during it there were telling us, as long as you don't put dates on before and after photos, it is alright because it could of been, Before he had a beer after he had a beer, eventhough there are advertising a exersise bike.
So mate it's not what they say it is what they don't say what you have to look for.
If it says fresh, maybe they mean fresh when it was packed, anyway why would you buy fruit in a can anyway?
 
personally I don't buy fruit in a can, well.... very rarely anyway, but millions of people do! And I was wondering if people actually consider this food 'fresh'? I think the companies that market the crap rationalize calling it fresh because the fruit may have been fresh at the time of the canning. Some canned food is actually very good and it's shelf life some 100 + years (i'm just making crap up so don't ask for sources) which is great for people that live in extremely rural areas. Anyway, the point of this thread was to see if people had objections to this marketing of 'gourmet' and 'fresh' products that most people would probably not consider fresh or gourmet. ...but then everyone started talking about eating tongue, chorizo and goat balls... but that's just as fun to talk about! :D
 
oscar: yes caned food has the longest storage life of any sort of packaging. the problem with this is if its tainted the bacteria have WAY longer to mature before they are injested, so food poisioning from canned food is the MOST dangerious of any sort. NEVER BUY A DENTED CAN!!!!!! ever, and always check your cans for splits. The used by dates on most foods are what a conventional person might do to it. Like leaving meat in your car for a couple of hrs while you finish shoping, having not comertal grade fridges so the temp is too high (i had a teacher who was a microbiologist before she started teaching health and hyigene at school, she gets about a month MORE than the use by date on milk because she checks her fridge temps and looks after the product better than any of us do, she also knows what to look for in off foods), cans dont have that protection because they are surposed to be idiot proof

as for saying that frozen food is fresh, what they mean is snap frozen. It IS as good as fresh in most cases. Had a women at work come up to us and say that "you can really tell you pod your own peas and dont use frozen" but we do. In most cases its impossable to tell with peas to the exstent of them being BETTER than the "real thing"
 
> NEVER BUY A DENTED CAN!!!!!! ever,

Dents are no sign of poisoning. A bulging end cap is the sign of death. Spent much of my life eating from dented cans, as do lots of people.

I found a big tin of jam made in the 1930s once. As far as we could tell it all looked OK - but really I'm not that brave. Arsenic contamination in jam was a widespread problem in the 30s, along with a whole raft of far cruder safety standards.


NT
 
(Does a lack of a title make this titless?)

Getting back to the topic post:

0scar said:

What do you think about companies marketing microwave dinners as ‘gourmet’ or canned fruit and frozen vegetables as ‘fresh’?

I tend to think that advertising and marketing rely on overburdened memory and indifference. The idea of "gourmet" or "cuisine", or "fresh" is intended to appeal to the consumer in a very immediate fashion. The thing is that after the briefest moment's thought, that appeal seems rather absurd. Among my portion of a strange American consumer culture, what happens next is drawn from any number of devices to avoid thinking about such a basic and widespread misnomer.

On the one hand, "We know what they mean". In other words, we know it's a marketing device. To the other, unless you're of the first generation to any such muddling of language, you must either learn the difference or get by without understanding it.

In and of itself, this seems simple enough. Making a point out of "gourmet" or some such label generally gets a response of, "Why does it matter?" Well, it's dishonest. "Yeah, but we know what they mean. What does it matter?"

It's honor among thieves, and true to a Western tradition called "Original Sin", we've come around to expect the worst of ourselves: in the case of honor among thieves, we expect that people understand thievery. We're supposed to understand, inherently, the dishonesty of salesmen and politicians. Of late the politicians and salesmen have insisted on lawyers and journalists being treated the same way, and since we're all thieves, anyway--born into sin, you know--why not?

In an individual, the presence of so many aberrant processes leading to conflicting results would be considered a psychological malady, perhaps even psychiatric. Then again, abstract institutions reflect the individuals who compose them.

In terms of evolving language, the idea of "gourmet" frozen food is clear enough: the food itself is so bad that they've found it cheaper to spice and flavor the stuff to hide the deficient quality. Instead of tasting like plain food from a can, it tastes more like gourmet food. It's like seeing a label that says:

Mom & Pop's
Natural Orchard Cherry
flavored drink





Artificially flavored, contains no fruit juice

After a while, we would learn to expect that anything saying "Natural Orchard Cherry" would mean "artificially-flavored". What happens if Mike & Ike pick up Mom & Pop's flavor for "Mom & Pop's Natural Orchard Cherry® Candies"? Now the phrase "Natural Orchard Cherry", without the word "flavor", refers to Mom & Pop's Natural Orchard Cherry-flavored drink. Given enough time, people will simply accept that "Natural Orchard Cherry" is an artificial, hyper-sweetened flavor. In my corner of the Universe, it turns out that two flavors--"Wild Cherry" and "Fruit Punch"--compete for the honor of tasting like "red". (This is why "Blue Raspberry" was such a phenomenon for a while; that blue should taste raspberry was counterintuitive until the "Blue Raspberry" rage; I despise "Blue Raspberry", incidentally, so "blue" ends up tasting like "fruit-punch" flavored Sweet Tarts for me.)

By the time we get to arguing the flavors of colors, I would hope it's perfectly clear that the actual fruit flavor alleged of the product is irrelevant. And while the purists might throw a bigger fit about making mint-chocolate-chip ice cream green than they do about making raspberries or fruit punch blue, it's the same concept: I have, before, grabbed mere chocolate-chip vanilla ice cream because a carton was out of place next to the "gourmet" mint-chocolate-chip ice cream (no artificial flavors or colors, the package says).

By the time the consumer is run through that whole wringer--be it "Salisbury Steak" that has no meat in it whatsoever, or "Fri-Chik" that has no chicken in it whatsoever (and tastes a little less like chicken, imho, than does cock°)--it really doesn't matter. Everybody seems to accuse everybody else of paranoia, and I think the conclusion that can be purported is fair enough: we're all freaking bonkers. While my own sentiments about marketing might seem like a liberalistic, Sesame-Street appeal to decency and honesty, it turns out the conservative up the street who claims to have not voted in the presidential election because all of the conservatives were either too liberal or not Christian enough is of the same mind. In fact, I hear more about it from him than I bother to think about it myself anymore.

I can't speak for the rest of the world, but Americans seem perfectly happy eating their "gourmet" food and buying "quality" "handcrafted" items° and guzzling down their blue raspberries.

I mean, think of what we call beer. I'm told you can buy Anheuser-Busch "Budweiser" in Germany, but it's a different beer than we're used to in the states. The American "King of Beers" isn't even beer. Nor was there "wine" in Bartles & James' "wine coolers".°

I'm told it's even more strange in Tokyo, though. And a friend recounts from Liverpool that the English version of the issue may well be an example of what Oscar Wilde meant by amusing the poor.
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Notes:

° cock - My apologies for the random-seeming profanity, but really ... the opportunity presented itself, and it's true as well. Who in their proper comedic mind could resist making the audience groan for a bad anti-pun? And really, how many times do you get to start a footnote with the word "cock"?

° handcrafted items - So the other day, a random search for internet porn turned up a couple of suspect links, including "handcrafted" underwear manufactured somewhere in the third world. I don't know if that disturbed me more than Bob Vila hawking little girls' panties, but it was troubling that I came across either in that particular search. Yes, I'm just running with a thematic subtext, so file it under "T" for "Things We Never Wanted To Think About".

° no wine in wine coolers - It still took me a while to figure out that drinking Boone's, then, was the better option; it was about that time, coincidentally, that I started drinking real beer, real wine, and developed an evil and even dangerous affinity for Rumpleminze.
 
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Thanks for that post tiassa! “in the case of honor among thieves, we expect that people understand thievery” Very eye opening as to why this is so accepted and at the same time ignored by most people.

I glad you brought up flavoured food, this is something that really irks me! Your example is perfect. Marketing items as ‘fresh’ and ‘gourmet’ is something I thought it was amusing and might be interesting to talk about, but when drinks are labelled in the same manner as your example it really bothers me. This is very purposely deceptive and I do think it is wrong. Snapple for example markets many juices, but when you look at the back of the bottle you will notice that it has something like %5 or %15 juice! This is not juice! Once I remember buying some apple “juice” and looked at the ingredients; High fructose corn syrup + Pear juice + artificial flavour = apple juice! HA!

Once my niece and I were at my grandmothers, walking in the hills behind her house. My niece loves a certain type of raspberry candies, shes always eating them. So I thought this meant to she likes raspberries. In a corner of my grandmothers property are some wild raspberries that I knew where ripe and waiting to be picked. So take her over to it and pick her the best ones I can find and give her a hand full. “Whats this?” she says. “Raspberries!” She eats one, “Eeeeeew! That doesn’t taste like a raspberry!”

This is why I really dislike the whole artificial flavour nonsense. When we eat things that are raspberry flavoured, yet taste nothing like real a raspberry we then have the perception that this is what raspberries taste like. Then when we eat a real one it doesn’t taste like a raspberry should!

Sorry if this didn't make much sense, i'm in a bit of an altered state...

Does anyone know if there is already a thread on artificial and “natural” flavours?
 
Cow's tongue is delicious when properly prepared. "Rocky Mountain Oysters", or deep fried pig's balls, are also a very good snack for poker night while drinking beer.
 
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