quote]Of course life matters- because we're only here once and then *wham* we're blotted out of existence, never to return.[/quote]
Are we blotted out of existance? When we die, the only thing lost is our physical form yet the basic things that make us up still exist and go back into the universe. Why is it they can't be recycled and reset back to its beginings to slowly form and evolved into things as was once/is done? Isn't that how everything started in the first place for evolutionists? Even if just one of our molucles survives, can't that one molucle eventually turn into another form, whatever it may be, billions of years from the time of your death? Is that not reincarnation?
What do all those pleasures matter if it's all in vain? You can't take any of that with you when you die. Everyone dies. What about those that don't have those common luxuries? What is the purpose of life? We don't know. What should anything matter if life is just a one time thing that ends? If we do not have to live with our sins or destruction we may do since we die, then why not do it? Why be a hard-working person and not just rob a bank and live an easy life? Morals? Why do morals matter if there is no punishment after death? Why even care if the human race survives? What is the point of anything period if it all ends in one minute to a 100 years of life? It all sure sounds like a waste if all we are is all we are and it ends in a short 100 (if that) years.
I would like to somehow think I have to be responsible for my actions. I would like for there to be consequences to them all. The only consequences we have are the actions of other people. If not for other people intervening, we are able to do anything we want, as wicked a deed one can think of. If that person does many wrongs without any consequence from others, I would like to think they would somehow pay for them sometime. Whether it's from a God, or if they're somehow reincarnated in another form to later live in the conditions in which they created for themself.
If ever someone who lived a fun and pleasureable life somehow sets off all the nukes on all of Earth on purpose, should they not get punished? I'd love for their molucles to somehow mold into a new form, whether it's a plant, a human, a guppy fish, or whatever, and have to deal with the descruction they caused. Have fun being the plant who slowly dies unable to get clear air from all the nuclear winters, have fun being that mutated Chernobyl human, have fun being that guppy swallowed up and digested by another fish. I don't know, there should at least just be something to act as justice, even if it's themself. Death is the easy way out and is not punishment. Let that person reap what they sow when they're in their next life.
If the universe is infinite or an endless cycle, it seems that reincarnation would be true, even if one isn't in the form of a human being every single time, or even created in their new form at the exact moment of death. And if everything is infinite or an endless cycle, where does all the new stuff come from? We know a human is created from a sperm and egg. We know that the sperm and egg are created in the reproductive organs. I don't remember off-hand how they're created in the organs, but we need nutrients and the like to keep our body doing the things it does. But then what creates those nutrients? We get them from plants and the like, but what creates those? What creates this, what creates that. Eventually we come down to tiny molucles and energy and all that which we find that it's inside everything.
So if we're all basically the same infinite thing, just different various outcomes, and even our dead bodies are made of it and is released upon death, why can't everything be recycled again into molucles that are inside the nutrients in plants which get eaten by a human, which get digested into the body and turned into an egg or sperm and then turned back into a human? That's if I'm lucky that my old parts of myself were bumped and formed into oxygen and swallowed up by a plant which is then turned into nutrients that is eaten by a human, etc etc. Who knows, I could be formed into oxygen and lingering as it for a damned long time, heh. And who knows what else if I left this Earth.
So you don't fear death in the sense of the unknown? The only reason why you fear death is for your own selfish reasons of pleasure, love, happiness, etc which only last 1-100 or so years? Well, or not fear, just don't want to happen? Otherwise, if there is absolutely nothing after we die, everything is in vain.
At least if there is such a thing as reincarnation, in whatever form it may be, it would take out the selfishness in our one life and it would then be a sole responsibility to everything as a whole since we then know that we're everything and so is everyone else and thing rather than doing what we do just for the sake of the human race.
And if nothingness is what happens after we die, then what is right and wrong? If nothingless really is what happens when we die, then everything is supposed to be survival of the fittest since it came before religion which would also then make religion man-made that was only done so the weak could survive by imposing restricting laws on the strong. I mean hey, laws and religion are inspired by a greater force so without those made-up man-made laws, morals wouldn't exist in the first place.
So what we all think is good actually shouldn't be. Life is about survival of the fittest and all the bad stuff that come with it. It seems we're going against how we're supposed to be since that's how we first were and everything good only came later to go against our natural instincts that were imposed by the weak. It must be then that the weak people that began to outnumber the strong took over and switched things completely around. Yay, us weak people who enjoy love and happiness are all living a lie now too.
So the only reason you stick around is for happiness and pleasure? What will happen if you ever face a slump where you don't have any of that anymore? Will you then disappear and kill yourself since there is nothing to fear in regards to the afterlife, morals of a God, or other "after death" scenarios? Why go through all that hard work towards making your life once again better if by the time it gets better, is it for more of that love-addicted heroin?
I dunno, I just can't understand how one could live if death really is the absolute end. If I believed that, or was found to it be true, I would live the total easy life as hard work no longer means anything nor do morals since it's all man-made stuff. I'd do some nasty deeds as a teen and live a comfortable life the rest of my years with nothing to fear. I'm living life for all the same reasons as everyone else is, love, happiness, pleasure, but since there is nobody to uphold the outcomes of my actions, I have nothing to worry about. At least with reincarnation, even without a belief in some Almighty, I'd then be sowing what I reaped so that'd be my own consequence. But dang, otherwise all of life is in vain and pleasure and all those feelings mean nothing more other than little stimulated feelings in our brain. Sucks.
- N
Are we blotted out of existance? When we die, the only thing lost is our physical form yet the basic things that make us up still exist and go back into the universe. Why is it they can't be recycled and reset back to its beginings to slowly form and evolved into things as was once/is done? Isn't that how everything started in the first place for evolutionists? Even if just one of our molucles survives, can't that one molucle eventually turn into another form, whatever it may be, billions of years from the time of your death? Is that not reincarnation?
What do all those pleasures matter if it's all in vain? You can't take any of that with you when you die. Everyone dies. What about those that don't have those common luxuries? What is the purpose of life? We don't know. What should anything matter if life is just a one time thing that ends? If we do not have to live with our sins or destruction we may do since we die, then why not do it? Why be a hard-working person and not just rob a bank and live an easy life? Morals? Why do morals matter if there is no punishment after death? Why even care if the human race survives? What is the point of anything period if it all ends in one minute to a 100 years of life? It all sure sounds like a waste if all we are is all we are and it ends in a short 100 (if that) years.
I would like to somehow think I have to be responsible for my actions. I would like for there to be consequences to them all. The only consequences we have are the actions of other people. If not for other people intervening, we are able to do anything we want, as wicked a deed one can think of. If that person does many wrongs without any consequence from others, I would like to think they would somehow pay for them sometime. Whether it's from a God, or if they're somehow reincarnated in another form to later live in the conditions in which they created for themself.
If ever someone who lived a fun and pleasureable life somehow sets off all the nukes on all of Earth on purpose, should they not get punished? I'd love for their molucles to somehow mold into a new form, whether it's a plant, a human, a guppy fish, or whatever, and have to deal with the descruction they caused. Have fun being the plant who slowly dies unable to get clear air from all the nuclear winters, have fun being that mutated Chernobyl human, have fun being that guppy swallowed up and digested by another fish. I don't know, there should at least just be something to act as justice, even if it's themself. Death is the easy way out and is not punishment. Let that person reap what they sow when they're in their next life.
If the universe is infinite or an endless cycle, it seems that reincarnation would be true, even if one isn't in the form of a human being every single time, or even created in their new form at the exact moment of death. And if everything is infinite or an endless cycle, where does all the new stuff come from? We know a human is created from a sperm and egg. We know that the sperm and egg are created in the reproductive organs. I don't remember off-hand how they're created in the organs, but we need nutrients and the like to keep our body doing the things it does. But then what creates those nutrients? We get them from plants and the like, but what creates those? What creates this, what creates that. Eventually we come down to tiny molucles and energy and all that which we find that it's inside everything.
So if we're all basically the same infinite thing, just different various outcomes, and even our dead bodies are made of it and is released upon death, why can't everything be recycled again into molucles that are inside the nutrients in plants which get eaten by a human, which get digested into the body and turned into an egg or sperm and then turned back into a human? That's if I'm lucky that my old parts of myself were bumped and formed into oxygen and swallowed up by a plant which is then turned into nutrients that is eaten by a human, etc etc. Who knows, I could be formed into oxygen and lingering as it for a damned long time, heh. And who knows what else if I left this Earth.
So you don't fear death in the sense of the unknown? The only reason why you fear death is for your own selfish reasons of pleasure, love, happiness, etc which only last 1-100 or so years? Well, or not fear, just don't want to happen? Otherwise, if there is absolutely nothing after we die, everything is in vain.
At least if there is such a thing as reincarnation, in whatever form it may be, it would take out the selfishness in our one life and it would then be a sole responsibility to everything as a whole since we then know that we're everything and so is everyone else and thing rather than doing what we do just for the sake of the human race.
And if nothingness is what happens after we die, then what is right and wrong? If nothingless really is what happens when we die, then everything is supposed to be survival of the fittest since it came before religion which would also then make religion man-made that was only done so the weak could survive by imposing restricting laws on the strong. I mean hey, laws and religion are inspired by a greater force so without those made-up man-made laws, morals wouldn't exist in the first place.
So what we all think is good actually shouldn't be. Life is about survival of the fittest and all the bad stuff that come with it. It seems we're going against how we're supposed to be since that's how we first were and everything good only came later to go against our natural instincts that were imposed by the weak. It must be then that the weak people that began to outnumber the strong took over and switched things completely around. Yay, us weak people who enjoy love and happiness are all living a lie now too.
So the only reason you stick around is for happiness and pleasure? What will happen if you ever face a slump where you don't have any of that anymore? Will you then disappear and kill yourself since there is nothing to fear in regards to the afterlife, morals of a God, or other "after death" scenarios? Why go through all that hard work towards making your life once again better if by the time it gets better, is it for more of that love-addicted heroin?
I dunno, I just can't understand how one could live if death really is the absolute end. If I believed that, or was found to it be true, I would live the total easy life as hard work no longer means anything nor do morals since it's all man-made stuff. I'd do some nasty deeds as a teen and live a comfortable life the rest of my years with nothing to fear. I'm living life for all the same reasons as everyone else is, love, happiness, pleasure, but since there is nobody to uphold the outcomes of my actions, I have nothing to worry about. At least with reincarnation, even without a belief in some Almighty, I'd then be sowing what I reaped so that'd be my own consequence. But dang, otherwise all of life is in vain and pleasure and all those feelings mean nothing more other than little stimulated feelings in our brain. Sucks.
- N