What IS your problem, Jan?
.....you say that there is no god, and anybody who believes in a false entity, does so out of wanting some comfort, or something to that effect.
Then you ask 'if there is a god why does he does he murder'?
Cite me, please, where I say that there is no God. Please provide the textual citation and a link to the topic and thread so we can all see the context. I'm getting very sick of this crap. Ask around. Like I told
KalvinB, take a poll.
Furthermore, your reduction of the issue at hand is ludicrous.
It's surprising to me that most of the anti-abortion response--daresay all of it--is choosing to undertake points separate from the topic post.
You know, if a woman conceives, has a child, and that child grows to be 80 and dies of cancer, I'm not arguing that;
Xev and I cleared that one off the table immediately.
I'm not even talking about the woman who conceives, gets in a car wreck or falls down the stairs, and miscarries due to external trauma. This is closer to the point, but not quite there.
What I
am talking about is a condition whereby conception occurs with the specific result of a miscarriage due to the incompatibility of organisms. The organisms treat each other like infections, and usually the mother's body ends up killing off the gestating organism.
This condition can be worked around with artificial intervention. That is, you can pump chemicals into a woman designed to prevent her body from sensitizing to Rh factor. Nonetheless, the bloods of the two organisms are poisonous to each other.
As a question of nature, I find it interesting how this circumstance plays into evolution. Is it a vestigial conflict? Is it a growing conflict? Why does nature allow this to happen at all?
As a theological question, though, it puts God's will in a specific light. According to an exceptionally common notion, God blesses life at conception. It seems strange to bless a life just to kill it before it has any chance to ... well, has it sinned yet?
The question is what God is doing blessing and then murdering. The organism does nothing but exist in a womb.
Is it an attempt to change the behavior of the host (mother)?
Is it a message of some sort?
Isn't
murder a ridiculous measure to undertake in such a circumstance?
I'm not the one setting the debate,
Jan. The anti-abortion crowd has set the debate. Without their theological point and its necessry demands, the question would not even exist.
Really, if I asked whether you liked figure skates or hockey skates better on ice, would you accuse me of
setting the ground rules for your debate before it has even started if I didn't give a damn what you thought of the new Sketchers roller-skates?
What’s it gonna be, does He exist or not?
On the one hand, start your own topic. To the other, no the He that I refer to does not exist; that is, the Christian God. The goddess I recognize definitively exists.
If you still hold to the point that there is no god, then what is the use of your debate, that is what i meant by 'pissing in the wind'.
Again,
Jan, I invite--no, I demand that you cite my point that there is no God.
And then, if you somehow manage to find some arcane-yet-valid example, not only will I claim sobriety and a bad mood as my excuses, I will point you over to the titanic debate entitled
The Crucifixion was a fraud, and have you review the oft-repeated point about mystery novels and such.
If you think He exists, then you should learn more about Him.
If you think He doesn’t then why bother attribute Him to anything, good or bad.
I like how often you say things like that. It's a good line to have in reserve. Unfortunately, you're barking up the wrong tree with it.
Me your friend not your enimi.
Don't make me dig up old posts of yours.
In fact, don't make such statements. I would hope, as I do with all people, to call you
friend. But if I met you in a tavern somewhere and you behaved according to your online persona, I would buy you a beer just to make you go away.
thanx,
Tiassa