Faith: A life or death question

[Rav]

The relevant section is as follows:

"And [We cursed them] for their disbelief and their saying against Mary a great slander, and [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah ." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain. Rather, Allah raised him to Himself. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise." - Qur'an 4:156-158 (Sahih International)

 

[Lori_7]

So someone who dedicates himself to the destruction of society from the moment he has enough awareness to make the decision would be atoning for this inherited sin?

no.

As for genetics, the fundamentalists who take all of this woo-woo seriously don't even believe in it, since the world and its entire biosphere is only 6,000 years old.

what woo-woo? genetics? i wouldn't think that people who for whatever reason believed the planet to be 6000 years old would know much about genetics.

Most Americans don't even take a share of responsibility for what was done to the Indians in order to provide us with this home--something that only happened a few hundred years ago and was done by people whose names are written down. It's hard to understand why so many of them are sanguine about accepting responsibility for something that was purportedly done millennia ago and was only attested in oral legends. So many of the legends in the bible have already been falsified, how irrational does one have to be to continue trusting in the others and not accept them as metaphor?

this is a tangent.

there's nothing metaphorical about our physical bodies and environments being largely influenced, shaped if you will, by the cumulative results of our thoughts over time. sin being handed down from father to son, and a generational curse, isn't some kind of voodoo magic; it's as blatant as a genetic disease, or condition that one is predisposed to. it's as blatant as the inherent influence one's parents has on them. you can't escape that, even if you and/or your parents attempt to.

 

[wynn]

But what do we do in the meantime? Grant all the rights of adulthood to one-year-olds? Hell, we're heading in that direction here. The United States is practically a pedocracy.

Well, I don't know. You are the one who is rational, so surely you are the one who has the rational solution and everything.

 

[cosmictraveler]

He avoided the Doctor for his foot - a gooood looong time, not sure if it was his faith, or being a typical man.

He was probably to stoned to feel anything!