Excommunication of stem cell scientists

Doh.. I suppose it is good advertising for New Scientist if nothing else so hopefully they don't mind me putting it here. If there's issues, I'll remove it.

"VIRGIN-BIRTH" embryos have given rise to human embryonic stem cells capable of differentiating into neurons. The embryos were produced by parthenogenesis, a form of asexual reproduction in which eggs can develop into embryos without being fertilised by sperm. The technique could lead to a source of embryonic stem (ES) cells that could be used therapeutically without having to destroy a viable embryo.

Human eggs have two sets of chromosomes until fertilisation, when the second set is usually expelled. If this expulsion is blocked but the egg is accidentally or experimentally activated as if it had been fertilised, a parthenote is formed (see Diagram).

Because some of the genes needed for development are only activated in chromosomes from the sperm, human parthenotes never develop past a few days. This means that stem cells taken from them should bypass ethical objections of harvesting them from embryos with the potential to form human lives, say Fulvio Gandolfi and Tiziana Brevini of the University of Milan, Italy.

The researchers created human parthenotes that divided and formed immature embryos called blastocysts, from which ES cells could be derived. Another group's attempt to create stable lines of ES cells this way stalled at this stage because the cells died after a few days (New Scientist, 26 April 2003, p 17). "We were more lucky," says Brevini. Different conditions led to cells that could be cultured and the cell line was still dividing two years later. The cells display most of the molecular markers associated with pluripotency - the ability to differentiate into any cell type in the body. The researchers have shown that the ES cells can form precursors to all of the body's major cell layers, and differentiate into mature neurons.

"This is the first example I have seen of this in humans, and it is potentially very exciting," says Alan Trounson, an expert in the field of stem cell research at Monash University in Clayton, Australia. "It could be a source of embryonic stem cells that's not embryonic in the conventional sense."

However, he cautioned that more work is needed to prove that they are ES cells, since they do not display all the characteristics expected.

The results were presented at a meeting of the European Society for Human Reproduction and Embryology in Prague, Czech Republic, last week.

From issue 2558 of New Scientist magazine, 01 July 2006, page 19
 
I would've assumed that those who are involved with stem cell research would have already considered the 'religious' implications of their research prior to getting involved, as it has been a heated issue with theists for some time now.

Hence, why would they care what the Vatican thinks, now or ever?

An impotent gesture on the Vaticans part, at best. Bicep Billy once again flexing his muscles at the beach.
 
Snakelord - many thanks - that was very useful to know.
 
Cris said:
Lawdog,

And the truth is what?

I believe Pontius Pilate asked the same thing of Christ:

Unlike the synoptic gospels, the Gospel of John states that Jesus said to Pilate that he is a king and came into the world ... to bear witness to the truth; and all who are on the side of truth listen to my voice, to which Pilate famously replies, What is truth?. The Gospel of Mark does, however, have Jesus saying "Yes, it is as you say" when asked if he is the king of the Jews, though he mostly sidesteps such questioning by arguing that the Roman taxes should be paid. (Wikipedia)

Stem cell research is possibly the most important activity for the human race today. That the church can't see that is hardly suprising. They have been stifling science in their irrational ignorance since they came into existence

I cant believe that you would say that. The Church gave birth to science as we know it. Were it not for the favor and patronage of the Church during the rennassance and later periods, we would have no science. Unfortunately, since science now seees fit to disobey the Church in moral matters of which science is no authority, they will destroy themselves, by aborting in stem cell research perhaps someone who might have made the great science mind of the future.
 
Lawdog said:
Cris said:
Lawdog,

And the truth is what?

I believe Pontius Pilate asked the same thing of Christ:

Unlike the synoptic gospels, the Gospel of John states that Jesus said to Pilate that he is a king and came into the world ... to bear witness to the truth; and all who are on the side of truth listen to my voice, to which Pilate famously replies, What is truth?. The Gospel of Mark does, however, have Jesus saying "Yes, it is as you say" when asked if he is the king of the Jews, though he mostly sidesteps such questioning by arguing that the Roman taxes should be paid. (Wikipedia).
But Pilate was a real person, jesus wasn't
 
Oh, ok. i guess most writers back then commonly portrayed historical figures conversing with fictional ones. get real.
 
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