Eugenics
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sowhatifit'sdark
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Who will clean the toilets and make running shoes for 10 cents an hour?
I do hope the rich think carefully before killing all of us.
The moment I see a japanse robot that can sew leather for less than 10 cents an hour I am heading for the mountain forests.
I do hope the rich think carefully before killing all of us.
The moment I see a japanse robot that can sew leather for less than 10 cents an hour I am heading for the mountain forests.
Ten cents an hour seems a bit extravavagant but with advances in technology the cost will soon come down. Part of the paln which I forget to mention is that some of the fittest will be retained and provided with a carefully balanced diet which matches calorific input/output. They will not, of course, be paid, to prevent them hoarding money.
Self-help books will be banned in case any of the underclass learn to read. Imagine the problems facing society if the lower orders gotto read "Think and Grow Rich", "Get Rich while You Sleep" and similar subversive literature. To keep them in good spirits, thus enabling them to work better, a few will be taught to read and provided with uplifting literature such as " My Dog Taught Me To Pray"
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thanks for that! I read through a good portion of what you said I would have to say I agree with portions of it.
I think for some people due to religion and the concept of "GOD" it hinders their ability to accept genetic manipulation. Why? Well because it takes creation out of gods hands......which they contribute to him and only him.
IF you could turn on and off genetic traits to create a superhuman or "better" human I would be willing to bet the faithful and religious would STILL be against it.
but as was said earlier in that thread you linked......the problem mostly lies in the "process" by which eugenics would take place. Most of the processes I can think of involve force upon a person. Either by force of death or force of sterilization.
Hitler however has destroyed the idea to the point where it is very hard for some to even consider. Just like he destroyed the swastika and germany.
Spidergoat brought up an excellent point when showing that some "undesired" genetic traits could be in response or adaptation to other outside threats.
For Eugenics to be considered willingly there has to be a method of process that will be acceptable. I can't think of one honestly.
Can intelligent design beat evolution? I don't think so. Eugenics is intelligent design, and as such is a poor substitute for evolved solutions.
No matter how you do it, you'll end up with a guy in charge who resembles my first employer.
And when he's done, he'll have the human race set up to his specifications. The men will be lobotomized dwarf employees who don't need sleep. The women will be 3 - 4 feet tall, no teeth, with a flat head to balance the six pack on.
And when he's done, he'll have the human race set up to his specifications. The men will be lobotomized dwarf employees who don't need sleep. The women will be 3 - 4 feet tall, no teeth, with a flat head to balance the six pack on.
sowhatifit'sdark
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I believe any mature society offers the poor lotteries, casinos, television, exceptional rags to riches cases - to replace dissent with shame - theology based on positive thinking - see: infomercials, current business world buzz words - and affordable malnutrition.
We owe it to both humanity and Mother Earth to control the bloated dysgenic homo sapien population with eugenics.
sly1:
Yeah, I'd much rather brunettes with hazel or brown eyes.
sly1:
Yeah, I'd much rather brunettes with hazel or brown eyes.
Thank you for pointing that out. I will bring it up at the next committee meeting.
sowhatifit'sdark
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Oh, dear me, no. I can only assume you are a ‘representative’ of a ‘developing’ nation. Didn’t you learn anything from the fall of the Soviet system?
Rule # 1 - Do not seat your PR division and your executive branch on the same committees. (in fact the former does not have to be yours, see below)
Rule # 2 – Don’t be proactive – God, I love that word – in your PR, be reactive.
Being proactive – such as having the committee topic you suggested above - just creates heat loss due to inefficiency. Simply wait for left wing and otherwise disgruntled groups and individuals to notice, excuse me, claim that the organizations responsible for some of what we both listed above are opportunistic, cynical and parasitical. Then come out and imply
a) at worst they are neutal
b) market forces will sort this all out in the long run
c) this is the best of all possible worlds.
Again imply. All that social realism and romanticism you can leave for whatever figurehead you place in ‘office’.
The wonderful thing is that these so-called parasitical organizations – corporations, for example – will pay for their own PR. You do not need to tax the people to pay for PR.
This is all assuming you have already
1) set up banking laws that allow banks to loan money and then, while earning small interest on this money, can invest that same sum in the market - talk about cake and eat it too - and
2) corporations are protected under law AS INDIVIDUALS.
But really these are the total preparatory steps you need to take. From there the corporations will handle everything. But notice. They will definitely separate their executive and PR functions via the creation of lobbyists and think tanks and de facto ownerships of the media – we can call the various media organizations client states.
No need to have a committee. No need to feed conspiracy theories.
(if you feel compelled while transitioning to our more subtle system to have single committees, we recommend the secret labeling of all minutes with this proviso: release the documents 15 to 20 years later with large portions blacked out in the interests of national security. Counterintuitively this works wonders. Hell, even if the documents are in no way embarrassing, black out a few sections. This keeps supporter and non-supporter intellectuals fussing over documents and the past, while the mass of humanity gnashes their teeth over someone like Britney Spears having or losing custody of her children. In the past, if you are really pressed, you can allow ‘bad guys’ to be found, via past documents. You cannot jail the dead and the elderly are looked at mercifully by juries of their underlings. I mean Henry K. gnashes his teeth at our get togethers, but the little snipe is old and he can certainly live without a lot of international flights, for Christ’s sake.)
For the intellectuals you can also imply – always better than stating directly, again, learn from the Soviets’s errors – that predestination is the reason the poor are poor and the rich deserve their money and no one is stealing except for that black drug addict in Newark or Birmingham last week.
Remember: much as the intellectuals think they are no longer Christian they still have a psychology formed by a few thousand years of interpersonal and social religion-based ruts. Use genetics to justify economic disparaties, (but definitely via an independent expert or think tank) which is a cue to the hind brain and the limbic system that the rich are the chosen ones – this works well as a kind of guilt in both Christian (read, neo-Calvinist or at worst neo-Lutheran) intellectuals and Jewish ones. Catholicism models work on the poor – perhaps especially non-religious ones, who await the day when the market evens things out, just as their ancestors awaited justice in the afterlife.
Never for a second believe the ruts made by religion are no longer useful because people don’t believe in God.
He who does not study ruts, is doomed to make them. (as the Soviets tried and failed. How silly. They should have used the ruts that were there, why build new ruts - more heat loss. Where they did use the neurological ruts already present, it was coincidence. Guidline # 1 - don't listen to your own PR. The Soviets had good intentions, control the population, demand labor, and brook no dissent, but they came right out and said those things, confident in their own Romantic panache.)
I hope this has been helpful. Contacting the IMF could be useful, but why not go to the horse’s mouth itself (and look in): any global corporation will do.
Don’t work so hard. Let the so-called parasites do all the work. It is their nature. As they said at Esalen: don't push the river.
And that is precisely what having such a committe would be doing.
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