Does time exist?

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DaveC426913 said:
Well, except that's a made up word. So, while interesting in terms of giving it a label, it doesn't do much to inform the topic.
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Note that using post #952, we can translate the statement "We can define time in several ways, but its nature is only one: magnitive." into plain English.

"We can define time in several ways, but its nature is only one: imperceptible and with a greatness of size or amount (existing independently of perception or an individual's conceptions), but measurable."

In other words, it's a scalar or field or something similar. Which is of cause true, but says nothing. Heck, mass, electric charge, and length also meet that requirement! Just about every parameter in any physical model meets those requirements.

Conclusion: the statement is true, yet valueless.
 
NotEinstein said:
How to you distinguish between its "definition" and its "nature"?
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Definition is the concept, as we conceive time.
Nature is the way to operate time.

Example 1 : light

Definition : is the phenomenon that illuminates objects making them visible.
Nature: wave-particle duality

Example 2: water

Definition: is the liquid body that quenches our thirst and We use it in cleaning.
Nature: H2O
 
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I'm confused because I've not been on here for a while. Are Asexperia and Sibilia the same person?
 
Asexperia said:
We can define time in several ways, but its nature is only one: magnitive.
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how time is likened to a stackable board game?

:)
 
Asexperia said:
Definition is the concept, as we conceive time.
Nature is the way to operate time.

Example 1 : light

Definition : is the phenomenon that illuminates objects making them visible.
Nature: wave-particle duality

Example 2: water

Definition: is the liquid body that quenches our thirst and We use it in cleaning.
Nature: H2O
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Do not make up your own meanings for terms such as 'definition' and 'nature'; they already have meanings.

eg: "Definition: is the liquid body that quenches our thirst and We use it in cleaning."

This is not a definition - as is obvious by the fact that it does not define water.

Many things quench our thirst; many things are used for cleaning.

By your "definition", Coca Cola and water are the same thing.

To be clear: since what you are calling a definition does not define the thing uniquely and distinctly, it is not, therefore, a definition of the thing.
 
Asexperia said:
Nature is the way to operate time.
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Utter unadulterated Cowpat

The is no "inbuilt inherent" unit of TIME within nature

What is commonly called TIME is a measurement of change and is more correctly called AGE the units of which have been arbitrarily chosen

The PAST is non existent
The FUTURE is non existent
Only NOW exist

:)
 
Asexperia said:
Definition is the concept, as we conceive time.
Nature is the way to operate time.
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I think I understand what you are saying. You are making an explicit split between the way things are ("nature"), and the way we see/describe them ("definition"). That is a good distinction to make! But as others have pointed out: those are not the proper words to use. Might I suggest:
nature --> reality (as in, the real world out there), or perhaps: actuality
definition --> model (as in, our model of the universe)
 
Michael 345 said:
What is commonly called TIME is a measurement of change and is more correctly called AGE the units of which have been arbitrarily chosen
The PAST is non existent
The FUTURE is non existent
Only NOW exist
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Please, stop preaching. These are your opinions, not fact.
 
DaveC426913 said:
This is not a definition - as is obvious by the fact that it does not define water. Many things quench our thirst; many things are used for cleaning.

By your "definition", Coca Cola and water are the same thing.
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You see that the definition is the concept, as we conceive things?

Do you use Coca Cola in cleaning?

Not all of us agree on the definition of something.
 
NotEinstein said:
I think I understand what you are saying. You are making an explicit split between the way things are ("nature"), and the way we see/describe them ("definition"). That is a good distinction to make! But as others have pointed out: those are not the proper words to use. Might I suggest:
nature --> reality (as in, the real world out there), or perhaps: actuality
definition --> model (as in, our model of the universe)
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Good your suggestion.
 
Definitions of time:

- is what clocks measure.
Albert Einstein

- is the duration of things subject to change.
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- is the moment in which events occur.
Asexperia

Nature of time:

mt --->

mt is the measurement of time
The arrow (>) is the becoming (present).
Time is magnitive.
 
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Asexperia said:
Definitions of time:

- is what clocks measure.
Albert Einstein

- is the duration of things subject to change.
Wordreference
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Well if the internet says they're 'definitions', that got to be good enough for science.

Asexperia said:
- is the moment in which events occur.
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Moment is defined with reference to time.
To try to then define time in terms of moment is circular.

"What is V'ger?"
"V'ger is that which seeks the creator"
"Who is the creator?"
"The creator is that which created V'ger."
 
Asexperia said:
Moment is an instant, a period of short duration.
Nothing circular. Entiendes?
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Look up the definition of the word "duration"; it fundamentally involves the concept time. In other words: "time" is more fundamental (at the very least conceptually) than "moment".
 
Time, in any frame of reference, is inexorable or absolute in the sense that
the sequence of moments is continuous and irreversible. Speed affects time,
but nothing stops its advance.
 
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Asexperia said:
Time, in any frame of reference, is inexorable or absolute in the sense that
the sequence of moments is continuous and irreversible.
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Note that using the word "absolute" in relation to time invites an interpretation of the usage as "absolute time", which has a very specific meaning in physics. I don't think you mean that. What do you mean by "inexorable" and "absolute" in that sentence?
 
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