Does capitalism work?
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I cannot comply with your request, as that would be dysfunction.
ripleofdeath
Registered Senior Member
Never forget many people have a vested interrest in disempowering people
and nurturing them into a position of disfunction, be that for sexual abuse, general abuse, control and manipulation for greed and other self serving reasons.
The actual amount of adults who truely wish to and try to inspire children to be free thinking functional beings is unbeleivably small and would be in maybe the upper five percentile.
Capitalism works...?
NEWS today:
ABN Amro is going to cut 500 jobs. It wants to cut costs. ABN Amro had a profit of 1,14 billion last quarter. Although profits were up in the first three quarters of this year ABN Amro was not satisfied. "We have to improve our results quicker if we want to achieve the goals we set for our stockholders at the end of 2008"
Workers do not matter. Consumers do not matter. Stockholders do. Does capitalism work?
Could have posted this also in the ehtical investment thread.
NEWS today:
ABN Amro is going to cut 500 jobs. It wants to cut costs. ABN Amro had a profit of 1,14 billion last quarter. Although profits were up in the first three quarters of this year ABN Amro was not satisfied. "We have to improve our results quicker if we want to achieve the goals we set for our stockholders at the end of 2008"
Workers do not matter. Consumers do not matter. Stockholders do. Does capitalism work?
Could have posted this also in the ehtical investment thread.
Well, Spurious, if the profits were as great as you posted, then you're just proving that capitalism DOES work ....and pretty damned well, too.
Baron Max
No, I posted that it only works for some. A minority. Stockholders, CEOs.
So ....who says that it's supposed to work for everyone on the fuckin' planet? I mean, where is that written?
Baron Max
So the answer to the thread question is, capitalism works for a minority, and doesnt work for the majority?
Wes, stop spamming beastiality links. It is really inappropriate. This is the third post you've made on it.
Well, if there's enough capitalist companies like Exxon, then there won't be a damned minority, will there?
Capitalism is not a form of government, where it's intended to "...provide for the common welfare...", it's a form of business economy for individuals and groups of individuals. For capitalism to "work", it only has to provide for the workers within it's own sphere, not for the whole fuckin' world! Capitalism obviously works, or there'd be no such thing.
Baron Max
Dude, pay closer attention. I can tell you thought it was me. Isn't that at least a smidge out of character? A teensy bit?
Capitalism is weak, the pathetic nature of humanity is such that it must eventually die. I think the entire world using economic systems is a ludicrious attempt to control an manipulate the very fabric of society. I for one will not allow it, in fact Capitalism is a sad method for maturing a culture.
Child's Play
These are contradictory statements. Desperation forces people to work.
To make the rich richer. That is the whole point.
Economic Power Games!
I don't hear the socialists saying accounting should be mandatory in the schools or talking about how much consumers lose in depreciation due to planned obsolescence.
http://www.bsu.edu/news/article/0,1370,-1019-11714,00.html
http://discussions.pbs.org/viewtopic.pbs?t=28529
psikey
These are contradictory statements. Desperation forces people to work.
To make the rich richer. That is the whole point.
Economic Power Games!
I don't hear the socialists saying accounting should be mandatory in the schools or talking about how much consumers lose in depreciation due to planned obsolescence.
http://www.bsu.edu/news/article/0,1370,-1019-11714,00.html
http://discussions.pbs.org/viewtopic.pbs?t=28529
psikey
This is a good point. Encouraging people to think freely threatens the mind control of the rich. Certain ignorants abide by mind control because it suits them best. They attack anybody that thinks freely, and beyond what ignorants are told to think.
Because it doesn't work the way you think it should work doesn't mean it doesn't work. An automobile shouldn't burn oil but a car that burns oil can still get you where you want to go. It is a question of how well it works.
There is no reason in capitalist theory why accounting should not be mandatory in all of the schools but have you ever heard anyone advocating capitalism suggesting such a thing?
http://www.bsu.edu/news/article/0,1370,-1019-11714,00.html
psikeyhackr
Right.
It can easily justified that it does work. That it is functioning.
Just as it can easily justified that a master/slave ultra stratified system is functioning. As long as you define functioning as the destruction of all there is.
However the opposite of that is the progressive elimination of poverty, crime, etc.
There are different categories of diseases.
1. Diseases that are receding. (Being cured).
2. Diseases that are being maintained. (Keeping a person sick like they do in the mental wards so they can keep the patients there, and get more funding.)
3. Diseases that are taking killing. (Leading to death.)
Capitalism is an economic system that promotes #3. In order to for an economic system to be functioning "according to MY standards", it should promote #1.
As long as we still have poverty, war, exploitation, etc., we have a disease. Crappytalism has no inherent capabilities of addressing these. In fact, in order for Crappytalism to function properly, poverty, war, exploitation, etc., must be ensured. Without it there is no desperation. Without desperation, there is no false sense of scarcity. Wtihout any false sense of scarcity, Crappytalism cannot exist.
Crappytalism is flawed because it not only does not lead to the elimination of these disfunctions. It is flawed because it requires disfunctions to exist. I consider the very definition of FLAWED to be any system that requires disfunctions to exist. Such as Crappytalism and Communism.
Then go buy stocks you idiot. In capitalism, EVERYONE can invest money into successful companies to make more money. When you buy shares, you gain power becasue now the corporation wants to please you, you have leverage. Unlike a communist system where people have no say in the economy and now leverage and are forced to take what the government gives them. Take mattes into your own hands, buy some stocks, and you will make money while at the same time helping the company, teh economy, and everyone else!
I really dont understand why this is so difficult to comprehend.
That's because some people want everything handed to them on silver platter, without having to lift a finger to do anything!
Baron Max
I just want the silver platter.