Do morals come from God?

[cato]

2 cents

Do morals come from God?

no

 

[Rosnet]

Does God come from morals?

No.

 

[Rosnet]

In short, it is enough to have morals. Kick out god.

 

[Hapsburg]

Hear Hear!

 

[ReighnStorm]

You mean Burn Burn!!

 

[Baron Max]

In short, it is enough to have morals.

Yeah, as long as they're mine or I agree with them! If not, what then?

Baron Max

 

[dsdsds]

Suppose God came down to Earth tomorrow, revealing his reality to all humanity, dispelling all doubts about his existence once and for all. Suppose the first thing he says is: "I am changing my Commandments. From now on, everybody must each kill one member of his or her family. It is right and good to do so, and wrong and evil not to."

....

What do you think?

If "GOD" came down and revealed his reality, then he/she/it would cease to be "GOD", and it wouldn't matter what he/she/it would tell us because he would only be some guy telling us what to do. Some of us would BELEIVE he is the God, some of us would BELIEVE he's just a guy with special powers, and some of us would BELIEVE he's just a guy with some tricks.

I'm assuming that if "GOD" did come down and tell us to kill our family members, we would just start BELIEVING that it is not God (maybe the devil disguised as God, or a really mean guy who knows some pretty nifty tricks, or whatever).

Without Belief, there is no God. Morals are defined by humans who beleive in God.

 

[spidergoat]

In short, it is enough to have morals. Kick out god.

Kick out both.

 

[Lord_Phoenix]

No one would believe if some one claims that they are god, so nothing will ever change.

 

[dsdsds]

No one would believe if some one claims that they are god, so nothing will ever change.

Some would ..ex. Jesus.

 

[Hapsburg]

Kick out both.

Hear Hear. Morals impede fun. Fun is good.

 

[spidergoat]

The whole religious business is nothing but moral codes of conduct. It is a social thing -- nothing religious about it. There is no difference between the policeman and the religious man. The religious man puts the policeman inside you. It is more difficult to handle the policeman inside you. You can corrupt the policeman out there.
-UGK

Yes, morality comes from religion and both are corruptions of our natural state.

 

[Rosnet]

Morality is necessary for happiness.

 

[spidergoat]

The idea that we must seek a happy state is also a corruption of our natural state, which is always in flux.

 

[Baron Max]

Morality is necessary for happiness.

Hmm, what about people whose morals are different and thus their happiness is likely different ......and they move into a society where the morals are differnt to their own? And worse, what if the immigrants' morals and subsequent happiness causes the new group UN-happiness?

Happiness? What is that and how can one define it objectively? And if it can't be defined objectively, then morals can't either, right?

Baron Max

 

[Baron Max]

The idea that we must seek a happy state is also a corruption of our natural state, which is always in flux.

What is our "natural state"? Can you explain that some more?

Baron Max

 

[spidergoat]

Most people live in their thoughts, and identify the thought process as theirselves, but I think this (the ego) is a recent invention that is passed on through culture. The natural state is the absense of this identification.

 

[Kron]

Is this argument about morals or god?

 

[Prince_James]

I pose this question first asked by Socrates:

Is it good because God wills it, or does God will it because it is good?

 

[Hapsburg]

Morality is necessary for happiness.

Not really. I'm perfectly happy being an immoral, apathetic, saber-rattler.