an average kid is perfectly capable of understanding when you talk to them like you did in post #807
Funny, I'd overlooked trhat. It works and and have the proof.
an average kid is perfectly capable of understanding when you talk to them like you did in post #807
For one: On the grounds that you represent many of them, and as you have said many times here you accept completely the assertions of your Scripture (the Christian Bible) as you understand them.jan said:And what grounds do you accuse theism as pure acceptance of complete hearsay?
The drastic difference in method is in presenting things as proposals and points of view, rather than presenting them as FACTS, which would be caracterized as indoctrination
telling a chidren:
there is no proof that there is a god
is different than telling him:
there is no god
(Q),
Why do you need to question my belief?
To help understand the mind of the indoctrinated and/or the gullible.
And what grounds do you accuse theism as pure acceptance of complete hearsay?
For one: On the grounds that you represent many of them,
...and as you have said many times here you accept completely the assertions of your Scripture (the Christian Bible) as you understand them.
The assertions of the Christian Bible are largely hearsay
I just don't see atheists in the US doing stuff like this very often: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CgvgjfwyPs&eurl=http://driftglass.blogspot.com/
Think I'll post that over in politics somewhere, while the link still works.
On the one hand, I think most atheists would take the "there's no proof" tact. On the other, I'm not sure it's reasonable for you to presume that they should. What's next? "Well, Johnny, there's no evidence that there are any monsters under your bed tonight, but who knows?"
I saw that a while ago. Still pretty funny.
Heh heh ... worshipping a cardboard cutout of Bush. Cool.
That's... pretty irrelevant. And no.have you ever demeaned a child's fear, only to find out there was a big spider there?
Why do you need to question my belief?
I question the beliefs of others mostly because they seem to have something that I want to have too - faith, self-confidence, peace of mind, certainty.
So I try to understand those people and see what instructions they can give me on how to get that faith, self-confidence, peace of mind, certainty.
Many people don't understand my drive and tend to think that I am merely picking on them.
My theistic faith is based on experience, common sense, and what I understanding of the situation I am in. No different, I would guess than yours.
You have faith in hoping to gain self-confidence, peace of mind, and certainty, by questioning others. Everybody has faith, otherwise we wouldn't do anything or go anywhere.
My theistic faith is based on experience, common sense, and what I understanding of the situation I am in. No different, I would guess than yours.
Jan.
You aren't differentiating between faith (belief without evidence) and trust (belief with evidence).
I suspect that your faith is significantly different than mine, that you have significantly more peace of mind than I do.
We can be fairly sure of certain things and events, and can therefore place trust, due to what we know of them.
But what we know is far from complete.
We place faith in that which we cannot be certain, in the hope that we are correct. It all boils down to certainty.