you mean like the people saying that the US should invade Italy to free her?
No, I mean it's hypocritical in some ways to criticize Italian justice since American justice is also flawed in many ways.
you mean like the people saying that the US should invade Italy to free her?
tiassa is right. italy is a circus
sorry Geoffp, didnt mean to quote you. I ment to quote quadraphonics
It's a Circus Maximus.
Would a innocent person transitioning from girlhood to womanhood when falsely accused of a crime out of fear turn around and falsely accuse somebody else of the crime? Maybe.
Make note: I falsely accused don't falsely accuse somebody else as doing so will likely backfire.
Then again maybe she really was involved in the crime. Make note: when guilty don't make accusations that perhaps can be proven to be lies.
The guy who was falsely accused (Patrick Lumumba) was arrested because Knox initially said in the night of the murder she was in the house and saw Lumumba with Kercher entered Kercher's room. He was arrested for 2 weeks, but then released because he had witnesses who confirmed his alibi that he was somewhere else in the night of the murder.
Now, what if he didn't have witnesses?
Perhaps answering my own question, Knox's father says the police intimidated Knox into implicating Lumumba. Knox's father said the police hit Knox. http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Amanda+Knox+police+until+pinned+blame+Lumumba/5514076/story.html
Article goes on to say:
Curt Knox said his daughter had been manipulated into making the accusation after police repeatedly questioned her about a text message she had sent to Mr Lumumba on the night of the murder in which she wrote "See you later."
He said that in English it was a vague and casual expression, but Italian investigators had interpreted it as a concrete plan for the pair to meet up.
They quizzed her about it, suggesting that she and Lumumba were part a plot to kill Kercher."
I don't doubt that African men would find it more difficult to get justice.
Would a innocent person transitioning from girlhood to womanhood when falsely accused of a crime out of fear turn around and falsely accuse somebody else of the crime?
The guy who was falsely accused (Patrick Lumumba) was arrested because Knox initially said in the night of the murder she was in the house and saw Lumumba with Kercher entered Kercher's room. He was arrested for 2 weeks, but then released because he had witnesses who confirmed his alibi that he was somewhere else in the night of the murder.
Now, what if he didn't have witnesses? What if at that time of the murder he was at his own home and sleeping and no one could confirm it? Quite sure he'd been in jail together with the other black guy (Rudy Guede) because of the defamation. Yes Guede was acting guilty by escaping himself to Germany and there were evidence (DNA? fingerprint?) of him in Kercher's room. But so is Knox, she was acting guilty by making lies, defamation, and there were evidence of her and her bf. The difference is that, no one seems to questioning if Rudy Guede DNA was contaminated or wasn't taken using international standard or whatever. Let's hope that he was indeed the murderer and that he was acting alone so that justice is served.
Kercher's body was found on the floor of her bedroom, with blood in various locations around the room.[58]:10 There were three cuts on her neck as well as bruises suggesting she might have been strangled. There were also signs of sexual assault.[58]:110 The coroner determined the cause of death was combined blood loss and suffocation.[59]
Moore, Malcolm (22 November 2007). "Transcript of Amanda Knox's note". The Daily Telegraph (London). http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1570225/Transcript-of-Amanda-Knoxs-note.html.
^ "Amanda Knox 'hit in the head' during Meredith Kercher murder interrogation". Daily Telegraph (London). 28 February 2009. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ng-Meredith-Kercher-murder-interrogation.html. Retrieved 2 January 2010.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meredith_Kercher#Evidence
How about as a first topic, we deal with the very basic forensic evidence:
We can state the following: Ms. Kercher was certainly killed via blood loss from the neck wound/suffocation. This seems trivial, but isn't: in order to suffocate her, it is more likely that her assailant was stronger than she was. I note also that her jawbone was fractured, "as if her head had been forced back".
(A moment aside while my utter disgust and burning hate, hate, hate, hate of murderers of women registers and hovers, screaming for vengeance...there, all better.)
Now this might mean that Ms. Knox at least could not have done this solo, whether or not this argument is being advanced by anyone. If Ms. Kercher was under the influence of alcohol or drugs, Ms. Knox might have conceivably smothered her (their strength probably being proportionate), but fracturing her jawbone seems less likely. Does anyone have any information on Ms. Kercher's bloodwork post-mortem, or indeed on any of them? Some have described an apparent conflict between Ms. Knox and Ms. Kercher as a result of the latter's supposed prudery, which suggests that Ms. Kercher would not be under the influence of anything, but I don't think this is necessarily conclusive and, given her age, seems unlikely. In any event, I think fracturing her jaw less likely for Ms. Knox solo, unless she is staggeringly larger than Ms. Kercher, or had a blunt weapon to hand, which has not been suggested so far.
Has anyone seen any additional information on the state of Ms. Kercher as found? Even that seemingly unrelated to one plea or another might be instructive, as it might be uncontaminated by the desire to press one or another conclusion home for reasons possibly independent of the facts.
Sort of lost on the relevance of the bolded part. But anyway: I suppose they well might. Fear might make you do a number of rash things. Are they distractions of last resort, or simply mistaken?
You wrote: "Ms. Kercher was certainly killed via blood loss from the neck wound/suffocation. This seems trivial, but isn't: in order to suffocate her, it is more likely that her assailant was stronger than she was".
If the perpetrator had a knife to wound the neck, he/she/they don't have to be necessarily stronger than the victim to "suffocate" the victim. The body was found with 3 cuts on the neck. What for the need of "suffocating"? I don't even understand.
A lot of details are not reported in the wiki entry. The murder took place on Nov 1, 2007. If you read some older articles, there are some interesting details (not showing that Knox is guilty, just interesting from the psychological point of view), for examples: