Schmelzer
Valued Senior Member
If it is false, explain the difference. I have simply applied the descriptions which have been given here to some situations, and made the conclusions. Correct me, but explain what is wrong, what I have misunderstood. That the law is somehow different explains nothing.That's not how the law is written, or how anyone with any sense would write it.
If you want to buy a bridge from me, and I want to sell it, but we are unable to sign a contract which really gives you this bridge, freedom of contract is violated?Freedom of contract includes the freedom to make voluntary contracts, when both sides agree. If two willing parties cannot make any such contracts, they do not have freedom of contract.
But that they are physically denied does not matter at all. All what matters is that there are a lot of rights and freedoms which the prisoner is legally denied.Among the rights taken away is freedom of contract - which you have described, and I agreed, as fundamental to civil rights and liberties.
I am glad you recognize that the prisoner has lost some fundamental rights not because they are legally denied, but because they are physically denied.
No. The same situation. Liberal government has to care about what is legally allowed and legally denied.Now pay attention: Likewise the black person, in the US, if white racists are allowed to voluntarily exclude them from the white racists's commercial dealings with the public. This actually happened.
Liberal government must prevent this, by definition of liberal government.
First, I say that liberal government does not have anything to say about unequal circumstances. A government which cares about unequal circumstances may be described as socialist or so, but not as liberal.Liberal government must prevent unequal circumstances from leading to unequal civil rights and freedoms. If you say that is impossible, you are saying liberal government is impossible.
If they had no equal rights of ownership, say, would have to pay higher taxes, would have to accept whites walking through their property without permission and so on, this would be something a liberal government would have to correct. If they would not have equal access to public property, paid with their taxes too, this would also be something a liberal government would have to correct. But if they simply have a less comfortable life because they are not allowed to enter the property of white racists, or white racists voluntarily refuse to sign contracts with them, this is nothing a liberal government has to care. This would be, instead, a right of the white racist scum it would have to protect.The racist whites did not and do not own all the property. Nonracist whites and blacks owned property, as well. But they did not have equal rights of ownership, in fact. The white racist voluntary cooperation dominated the society and denied them.
And all this would be illegal in a liberal government without your laws which forbid racist gated communities and white racists to refuse contracts with blacks simply for being black.Black people in the US were, are, and would be: prevented from using their own property as they liked; prevented from acquiring property even from willing sellers (white people also lost freedom of contract); prevented from contracting for the rental or other use of property even from willing owners; prevented from traveling between different properties they rented or owned or had the use of; prevented from equally defending their own property against unwanted access and use; prevented from obtaining loans and making other financial arrangements (such as utility connections) using their property as collateral; and so forth. Liberal government must - by definition - prevent that.