Creepy things caught in photos

Magical Realist said:
Somehow in my long 65 years on this planet I have been spared this allegedly rampant phenomenon of being pranked all the time by complete strangers.
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Easy marks are easy each and every time. They just can't figure it out. That's why they're an easy mark.
 
Magical Realist said:
Somehow in my long 65 years on this planet I have been spared this allegedly rampant phenomenon of being pranked all the time by complete strangers. Gee...I feel left out now. Am I not worthy of all their conspiratorial plots and subterfuge? Whatever did I do to deserve all this spiteful indifference? Oh well.. I will survive....somehow. lol
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Actually, it appears it's happening all the time and you'd just in denial of being snookered so much.
 
You said yourself, you have no reason to suspect it.
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So because I don't suspect strangers of pranking me all the time that means they are pranking me all the time? That doesn't follow at all. Not suspecting my mailman of being a serial killer doesn't make him a serial killer does it?
 
Magical Realist said:
So because I don't suspect strangers of pranking me all the time that means they are pranking me all the time? That doesn't follow at all. Not suspecting my mailman of being a serial killer doesn't make him a serial killer does it?
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No, you're just terrible at evaluating claims critically. Don't feel bad, you're just one more sucker, you have lots of company.
 
Magical Realist said:
So because I don't suspect strangers of pranking me all the time that means they are pranking me all the time? That doesn't follow at all. Not suspecting my mailman of being a serial killer doesn't make him a serial killer does it?
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Unless your mailman actually is a serial killer and you just don't know it.
 
TheVat said:
I'm sensing deep epistemological problems with this one. Somewhere in his upbringing and ensuing life experiences, the propensity of human beings for pranking, tall tales, hoaxes and all manner of mischief seems to have never made itself known to him. So now forumites here with a normal malarkey immune system strike him as rigid kneejerk skeptics bent on sucking all the wonder out of the universe.
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He's a clown. This is all an act he puts on. He's been pushing every kind of pseudoscientific nonsense on this forum for years. We have taught him what he needs to do to think critically. Nobody could actually be so stupid as to not have learned anything in all that time.

The only reasonable conclusion to draw is that Magical Realist is just clowning around. He's a troll who is pretending like he's the village idiot. To keep up the act, he will ignore information he is given, he will tell outright lies and he will just make stuff up and pretend it's established fact. He selectively responds to posts, ignoring all the parts that threaten to back him into an intellectual corner that reveals his deliberate trolling. Whenever he is backed into a dead end line of argument that makes him look even more stupid and gullible than usual, he typically drops the current subject of discussion and tries to start from scratch with an entirely different, unrelated case of somebody reporting a sighting of a ghost, bigfoot, the yeti, an alien spacecraft, an invisible man, a fairy, a unicorn, the Loch Ness Monster, or whatever.
 
Magical Realist said:
Seeing you have yet to debunk or show evidence for fakery in even just one ghost photo, that pretty much means they are authentic captures of ghosts just as they appear to be,
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More fallacious reasoning from you. Hypothetically, it could be that I am as stupid as you like to pretend you are. There could be a thousand faked ghost photos out there that I don't have the competence to debunk.

In other words, my ability - or lack thereof - to debunk ghost photographs has no bearing at all on whether they show actual ghosts.

Similarly, your many refusals to accept that ghost photographs have been debunked does not impact on the reality of the debunkings.
Magical Realist said:
Because it's feasible that one or even three photos of a tornado could be fake. But hundreds of them taken by many different people in different locations over the years who have absolutely no reason to lie?
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You keep asserting that nobody ever has a reason to lie. But you know they do have reasons, often. For instance, you're lying about this and you know have a reason. You're a counter-example to your own claim.

By the way, you might like to consider that people are probably more motivated to lie about the existence of ghosts than about the existence of tornados, for a number of reasons that aren't hard to comprehend.
Magical Realist said:
Along with hundreds of eyewitness accounts of unicorns from all over the world down thru the centuries? Yes.. that would convince me they are real though highly elusive for some reason. Just like ghosts are.
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Do you currently believe that unicorns are real? If not, why not?
Magical Realist said:
Knowing what we do about the science of photography, hundreds of photos of the same thing is strong evidence for the existence of that thing.
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Not on its own it isn't. There are, literally, hundreds of photos of unicorns, but unicorns aren't real animals in the natural world.
Magical Realist said:
That there are movies with special effects simulating those things does not suggest the non-existence of those things in the least.
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Correct. You're half way there. For the same reasons, movies with special effects simulating things does not suggest the existence (in the real world) of those things in the least, either. Agreed?

This was the point I made previously.
Magical Realist said:
Everyone knows those aren't real tornadoes in those films.
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How do you know what "everyone" knows?
Magical Realist said:
But that in no way means that all photos of tornadoes are faked too.
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Correct. As it happens, lots of photos of tornados are not faked. But the photos of the tornados, on their own, don't prove that.
Magical Realist said:
Just as faked photos of ghosts doesn't mean all photos of ghosts are faked.
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You're loading the dice when you say "photos of ghosts". If ghosts aren't real, then it follows that there are, literally, no photographs of ghosts. Just a bunch of photographs that show things that look like ghosts. The same applies to photos of unicorns and photos of tornados.
Magical Realist said:
Really? So how did you learn about the existence of tornadoes? Or nebulae? Or the northern lights? Or erupting volcanos? Or barracudas? Or roughly 99 % of all the things you know to exist that you have never witnessed firsthand?
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I can't remember how I learned of the existence of all the things you mentioned. I do, however, specifically remember seeing a hand-drawn picture of the northern lights in a children's book that was full of scientific questions and answers. That's how I first learned about that, at around the age of 6 or 7.

It's possible, of course, that the page or two about the auroras could have been a fantasy invented by the authors of that book and placed among accounts of many phenomena that I had witnessed firsthand, by the age of 7. The fact that there was an article there about auroras and a drawing of what they look like did nothing to prove that they were real.
Magical Realist said:
And yet that's how most of us have learned about the existence of things outside of our experience our whole lives since we were kids. Why should we now suddenly make an exception for ghosts?
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We shouldn't make an exception for ghosts. I learned about the idea of ghosts as a kid too. At that time - let's say age 7 - I was as content to accept the idea that ghosts might be real as I was to accept the idea that auroras might be real. But I wasn't sold on the idea that either of those things must be real. Also, my ability to think critically about evidence was quite a bit less developed than it is now. You see, I'm an adult now, and I have learned some things since I was 7 years old.

How about you?
Magical Realist said:
Because you don't want to believe in them? Not a good enough reason.
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What makes you think I don't want to believe in ghosts? I'm quite open minded, you know.

Is really wanting to believe in them - like a LOT - a good reason for you to make an exception for ghosts and all your other woo?
Magical Realist said:
How does a speculative hill in a forest made up by skeptics debunk the images of apparitions appearing there caught on camera? Oh wait. You're not really serious because you have no evidence the video was debunked at all. Got it!
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You're trying to prosecute another case that other people on this forum dealt with months or years ago.

Suck it up, MR. It was debunked. Apparently, some clown didn't know there are hills.
 
Yeah, I get that, no one ever wants to admit to being duped... over and over and over..
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Well, at least for you. For many people like me being duped would be no big deal. The prank gets exposed and we all have a laugh and life goes on. Always being afraid that people are duping you on the other hand? That sounds like a very stressful and anxious life. But whatever floats your boat.
 
Magical Realist said:
This is just a normal photo of some friends out having a good time. Or is it? Look closely and you will see a clear face in the dark area in the lower left, The person taking the photo didn't notice it till later when looking at the pics. And there were no extra people present when the photo was taken, so it's not someone crouching between the girls. Embrace the chaos!
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It was so rude of all them people to photo bomb that poor person’s selfie, pushing him almost out of view. The cheek of it.
 
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