Magical Realist
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Ah yes. Totally explains how we can capture ghosts in photos. Thank you for that enlightening tidbit. lol
Creepy things caught in photos
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Ah yes. Totally explains how we can capture ghosts in photos. Thank you for that enlightening tidbit. lol
Then by your standards, it does explain ghost sightings? More on photos later.
Gawdzilla Sama
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Nobody's caught a ghost in a photo. Come back to reality. Or not. You're more fun this way.
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I won’t say the article covers all of the ghostly photos but a very good portion of them. There’s still the photographer that needs explanation.
TheVat
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So, again, we have optical and digital artifacts, pareidolia and reflection. (when it's not outright fakery)
And a broader objection to the spirit hypothesis (henceforth SH) couid be metaphysical: if spirits are truly nonphysical, how are they interacting with physical instruments like cameras? Anything that interacts, say by emitting photons, would itself be physical. This goes back to one of the main critiques of Descartes' dualism.
The article on Aspergillus etc was interesting. The main point seemed to be that, whatever the neurological effects of spores, it is the power of suggestion that does the heavy lifting.
And a broader objection to the spirit hypothesis (henceforth SH) couid be metaphysical: if spirits are truly nonphysical, how are they interacting with physical instruments like cameras? Anything that interacts, say by emitting photons, would itself be physical. This goes back to one of the main critiques of Descartes' dualism.
The article on Aspergillus etc was interesting. The main point seemed to be that, whatever the neurological effects of spores, it is the power of suggestion that does the heavy lifting.
Gawdzilla Sama
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The power of "I want the world to be more interesting than it already is despite having very little interaction with it"-ism seems to rule some folks.
Magical Realist
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Consciousness itself though non-physical is able to interact with the physical world. Assuming spirits are also non-physical then, there seems to be no reason to think they are lacking any similar means of interacting physically. I speculate that the medium thru which they do this is thru manipulating energy to cause things to happen, much as our own minds do. Ghosts have been known to tap into energy sources like batteries, the warm ambient air, and people's own bodies when interacting. Energy seems to be a force that overlaps both the physical and non-physical realms, providing a conduit thru which they can make contact and make things happen.
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Basically, you're just making up nonsense, much of it contradictory to facts and evidence in order to fit your narrative.
Gawdzilla Sama
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"Consciousness itself though non-physical is able to interact with the physical world." Only with a physical medium. Your "mystical" is just you being wishful, and doing it badly.
Magical Realist
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Because of the many things that can be mistaken for ghosts in photos listed in that article, like dangling camera straps, cold weather breath mists, pareidolia, and dust orbs, the best ghost photos are of apparitions of persons not present when the photo was taken. Being dressed in period clothes is also helpful. That's why I have confined myself to posting only these in this thread. The images are not superimposed over other images and are not doubles of other people in the photo. And they are always about the size of what a person actually being there would be in the photo. That's why they stand out to me as authentic.
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Magical Realist
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"This ghost has been reported as being seen before in this location too.
Peter Berthelot took this picture of his wife, Diane, sitting on a pew at the Worstead Church in Norfolk, England in 1975. When they had the film developed, they noticed a ghost sitting on the pew behind Diane.
A man allegedly stayed in the church all night sometime in 1830 to try and disprove the theory of ghosts, but he claimed the following morning he had in fact seen the white lady seen in this picture."
Peter Berthelot took this picture of his wife, Diane, sitting on a pew at the Worstead Church in Norfolk, England in 1975. When they had the film developed, they noticed a ghost sitting on the pew behind Diane.
A man allegedly stayed in the church all night sometime in 1830 to try and disprove the theory of ghosts, but he claimed the following morning he had in fact seen the white lady seen in this picture."
Gawdzilla Sama
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And you don't realize you're being suckered. Use food money.
Magical Realist
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Photo of a man's face in an old abandoned truck. Doesn't appear to be the pareidolia of a glare on the windshield. In fact the windshield seems to be missing!
Here's some useful information on how to spot faked ghost photos:
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Here's some useful information on how to spot faked ghost photos:
Five Common Sense Ways to Spot a Fake Ghost Picture
In all the time I spend searching for real ghost pictures to post on our site, I have seen more fake ghost pictures than I care to remember. The thing that gets to me though is how blatantly fake most of these fake ghost pictures look. For example, there are an increasingly large number of ghost…
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Gawdzilla Sama
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Dude, you can see the tree behind the truck through that window. The iright side of the face is literally the edge of the rear window.
God, you can't be that gullible, but you've shown you're that desperate.
God, you can't be that gullible, but you've shown you're that desperate.
I hope this helps...
Easy Ways to Stop Being Gullible
- Ask yourself if the source of information is credible or not.
- Research the thing or situation to determine if it’s true.
- Ask questions to fully understand things and situations.
- Read and seek out information to build your knowledge base.
- Be more skeptical and don’t rush decisions or jump to conclusions.
Gawdzilla Sama
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You assume he can read?
TheVat
Registered Senior Member
And we know this how?
It does appear to be pareidolia, however. As Zilla noticed.
Here's my suggestion. You are maybe a genuine seeker after this mystery, but you are relying on secondhand (or n-hand) sources which may not be impartial, pulled off the web. That's no way to unravel a mystery. So why not contact a medium, set up an appointment, and try to contact someone in your life who has passed and could convey information that would be very specific and not anything that could be deduced from personal information on the web (it's my understanding that this is one of the standards of good mediums, that messages must be "google-proof") or anything in your home (if a reading is done there). Listen carefully, take notes, be non-committal if the medium seems to hit a bullseye, be pokerfaced generally, and see what quality of information is conveyed. Could prove enlightening.
At the least, you would enjoy the benefit of shifting your search from poking around the Net to a more scientific test, following in the tradition of Harry Houdini or those researchers at the SPR. You would be on the firmer ground of evaluating data and comparing it to data which could be obtained through ordinary channels. For example, if a medium did a session with me, and said, "Uncle Phil says hi and wonders if you still try to sneak Italian words into Scrabble games. Also, did you ever revarnish that tonsu chest? I've still got some tung oil in my garage, the can fell behind that pile of dowel rods in the back left corner," I would maybe have to readjust my metaphysical views. OTOH if Miss Blavatsky tells me, "You have an uncle who has passed and wants you to know he's fine and misses you and Kate," I would be not impressed.
Magical Realist
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Paranormal investigators experience this repeatedly in haunted locations. Do you think they'd lie about something like that?
"A reoccurring event that seems to happen at many paranormal investigations, is battery drain.
Cameras, torches and anything in your arsenal; powered by batteries, suddenly goes dead when pulled out for use during an investigation.
My team have experienced this annoying and expensive activity many times through the years. Possibly at nearly every investigation we’ve done. Be they chargeable batteries or replaceable batteries, they all seem to suddenly, or very quickly go flat.
Now, one of the theories surrounding ghosts and spirits is that they are made of energy and absorb or draw in outside energy to manifest or make them stronger.
Whether this is a fact or not, I have no idea. Nobody knows the facts and it’s all currently just theory and opinion.
When our batteries go flat, many of us will automatically blame the alleged ghost that haunts that location. I know I have in the past; though my accusations are mostly just sarcasm for giggles. However, I am truly curious as to why this happens.
Google hasn’t really been much help in finding anything that fits my ongoing concerns…and well, ask a sceptic and you get something smug and vague or swept-aside, like, ”Buy better batteries”, or ”It’s obviously just a malfunction in your equipment”. Batteries aren’t cheap, so I’m wanting answers. It only ever happens during investigations and never outside of those times; so, what is it about investigations that drains batteries so quickly?
Another question, and I know many fellow investigators would have experienced this often as well. You start an investigation full of energy, enthusiasm and positivity, yet, within say 30 minutes in, you’re feeling tired, lethargic and maybe even a bit moody or emotional. I know I’m not the only one here that has experienced this.
To add yet another questioning thought. Hypothetically, can ghosts (whatever they might be) drain our own bodily energy from us as well? Many have said they do, but DO THEY?
….and last question revolves around something that happened to me and my equipment in the weekend.
I brought along a small sealable Tupperware container full of brand new spare Double and Triple ”A” batteries to use on a solo overnight investigation in the weekend. Also noteworthy; my phone, video camera, Go-Pro, EMF / Mel Meter and still camera were all fully charged and ready to go as I entered the house.
All my gear went flat within the first 10 minutes of entering the house. So, I pulled out my Tupperware box to replace with new batteries. The first lot were dead.
Second try, dead.
Third attempt DEAD. ALL the spare batteries in the container had been drained before usage.
I only had enough battery power to do less than about 15 mins filming and photography, in total.
To add to this; I became overwhelmed with tiredness.
I became frustrated and edgy (I put that down to being annoyed about the waste of batteries).
I sat on a dust covered bed to gather my thoughts and think about what I should do next.
Have I mentioned that this house was the scene of a murder / suicide?"
I have no doubts there is an afterlife and so have no interest in using a medium to try to contact loved ones. I am far more interested in the paranormal as a phenomenon that is going on in the real world and learning about it. I am also interested in what it says about our current physicalist model of reality and our own consciousness. I am drawn to extraordinary and anomalous phenomena. That's just the way I am.
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Gawdzilla Sama
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Actual research is hard. "Ten Haunted Places Near You!" is easier.