Congratulations America - you got the president you deserve

[parmalee]

War in Afghanistan began in 2001 and ended in 2007. Trumps Presidency was from 2016. In case we’re just as clueless.
Bidens withdrawal from Afghanistan was terrible.
He left hundreds of Americans and BILLIONS of dollars of U.S. military equipment stranded behind enemy lines.

You're not even self-consistent here--that takes some serious ignorance and a staggering lack of integrity.

If, as you say, the war ended in 2007, how would you characterize the interim period of 14 years prior withdrawal? Every other reputable source refers to this period, including the period from 2001 to 2007--from 2001 to 2021, that is--as war:

This twenty-year armed conflict (2001–2021) is referred to as the War in Afghanistan[95] in order to distinguish it from the country's various other wars,[96] notably the ongoing Afghan conflict of which it was a part,[97] and the Soviet–Afghan War.[98][full citation needed] From the perspective of the West, the war is divided between 2001 and 2014 (the ISAF mission), when most combat operations were performed by coalition forces, a 2015 to 2021 (the Resolute Support Mission), when the Afghan armed forces did most of the fighting against the Taliban.[citation needed] The war was named Operation Enduring Freedom from 2001 to 2014[99] and as Operation Freedom's Sentinel from 2015 to 2021 by the US.[100] Alternatively, it has been called the US War in Afghanistan.[101][102][103] In Afghanistan itself, the war is known as simply the "War in Afghanistan" (Dari: جنگ در افغانستان Jang dar Afghanistan, Pashto: د افغانستان جګړه Da Afghanistan Jagra).[104][105][106]

War in Afghanistan (2001–2021)

Also, could you clarify the logistical details for the mass deportation plan I requested?

 

[parmalee]

Even if the were the case, it wasn’t started by him.
Perhaps you don’t understand what is meant by there were no wars under President.
He is unique in that regard, in my lifetime

How exactly are you distinguishing wars from military actions here? As noted, repeatedly, Trump massively upscaled the drone program far beyond the Obama years, vastly exceeding operations undertaken over 8 years within only 4 years.

 

[Sarkus]

I notice you have nothing to say about the insults that have been levelled my way.

Other than seeing a pattern in your behaviour, the nature of your interaction with other people is not my concern, and any issue you might have is for you to resolve with them. Complain to a moderator if you think it will do you any good.

 

[Trek]

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Other than seeing a pattern in your behaviour, the nature of your interaction with other people is not my concern,

Seeing a pattern in your behaviour and the nature of your reaction with other people is not my concern either.
Not sure where I have levelled any ad hominem attacks toward you, other than saying you sound like those silly people on The View etc…
It’s true.
You do.

 

[billvon]

Is that a Bill strawman (BS for short)?

Nope. A strawman is a rhetorical fallacy where, if you can't argue against the point, you make up a new one to argue against.

However, since Trump is in fact a rapist, that need not be made up. And if someone likes rape, that is a quite logical reason to be happy with the election; "one of yours" is now president.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Apres moi le deluge.

 

[Trek]

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More lies. Everyone here knows you are incapable of distinguishing between fact and fantasy. Your claims are as empty as your head.

Its a good thing you have no credibility outside of your leftie bubble…
Otherwise you would weely hoit moi feeelins

 

[parmalee]

However, since Trump is in fact a rapist, that need not be made up. And if someone likes rape, that is a quite logical reason to be happy with the election; "one of yours" is now president.

In fact, his administration is now comprised of several rapists and serial sexual assailants. Honestly, I don't fully understand why Gaetz dropped out--they've got no problem with rapists, so why would a pedophile be an issue?

 

[Sarkus]

Not sure where I have levelled any ad hominem attacks toward you, other than saying you sound like those silly people on The View etc…

Your post #580 is all fallacious ad hominem. At no point do you actually address any of the points raised in the post to which you were replying. Instead you attack the person. You are now doing nothing but that. Please desist.

 

[exchemist]

I wouldn't say "just" sing--singing well is every bit as on par as playing any instrument well. I can only sing badly, in tune but not disciplined, I guess. I've always wanted to be able to sing like Scott Walker, but can only adequately achieve Lee Hazlewood, at best:

Did you ever read Goedel Escher Bach? Still my favorite of all of Hofstadter's work. It's ostensibly about emergent intelligence, but through the lenses of mathematics, art and music. Hofstadter doesn't ever really get into psychoacoustics, but he does explore that eerie quality of Bach's music wherein it achieves a certain momentum and then it's almost as though it writes itself. Obviously, themes of self-reference, recursivity and self-replication are prominent throughout the book.

I’ve heard of it, certainly, but not read it. Bach was into numerology, I understand, and was a member of a numerological society, I think. The structure of the B Minor Mass is full of numerical symbolism and symmetry. Regarding his music writing itself, perhaps he felt like that composing it. I’m not an expert on music theory, though, so can’t comment on the degree to which the logic of a piece of his music may, or may not, dictate how it develops. It seems to me it is full of harmonic surprises and rhythmic vigour - with much use of syncopation - which don’t seem obvious at all when first encountered. That, and the occasional beauty of the themes (e.g Agnus Dei in B Minor Mass:

) is what gives it interest.

(By the way, that piece shows Bach’s understanding of the violin. He sets it in G minor, so that you get the lowest of the open string notes, which is particularly sonorous, as the keynote, as it draws to a close. It goes so well with the richness of the alto voice. It can move one to tears - as in fact happened to one of our music directors during a rehearsal.)

 

[Sarkus]

In fact, his administration is now comprised of several rapists and serial sexual assailants. Honestly, I don't fully understand why Gaetz dropped out--they've got no problem with rapists, so why would a pedophile be an issue?

I honestly think it was to prevent the ethics committee report from being released. He had promised to tell the truth under any Senate scrutiny for his appointment, but at least 10 would know the findings of the report, so would be able to say if he was lying or not.
So, to prevent that, and so as to be able to publicly maintain his innocence, he may have agreed to step down on the understanding that the report is never released. And maybe they thought there are likely a few GOP members who might still vote against someone on the basis of the report's content. It's all well and good supporting someone when it's just an accusation, but if your own ethics committee, for example, condemns him, will everyone still support?

 

[Trek]

Your post #580 is all fallacious ad hominem. At no point do you actually address any of the points raised in the post to which you were replying. Instead you attack the person. You are now doing nothing but that. Please desist.

I agree I was a little colourful in my approach, but I would hardly call them “attacks” given the frequency of the thread.

Regarding your post, you were using talking points from lefty media, and the religious thing was off topic, and irrelevant, what to speak of a lack of understanding of what theism is, and what Christ Jesus, or the 10 commandment means.
Sciforums is obviously not a place where theism, God, and religion can be discussed sensibly.

 

[Sarkus]

I agree I was a little colourful in my approach, but I would hardly call them “attacks” given the frequency of the thread.

What you call them is irrelevant.

Regarding your post, you were using talking points from lefty media, and the religious thing was off topic, and irrelevant, what to speak of a lack of understanding of what theism is, and what Christ Jesus, or the 10 commandment means.
Sciforums is obviously not a place where theism, God, and religion can be discussed sensibly.

1. Where points come from is irrelevant. Address them, or don't respond. Simply dismissing them based on where you perceive they come from is fallacious, as it doesn't address the issue.
2. Religion, at the level discussed, was on topic. It pointed to Trump's character or lack thereof. Your dismissal of it as irrelevant is thus fallacious and simply an effort at evasion.

The nature of your responses here simply reaffirms the pattern in your manner. You are a troll. Please stop.

 

[Trek]

What you call them is irrelevant.

1. Where points come from is irrelevant. Address them, or don't respond. Simply dismissing them based on where you perceive they come from is fallacious, as it doesn't address the issue.
2. Religion, at the level discussed, was on topic. It pointed to Trump's character or lack thereof. Your dismissal of it as irrelevant is thus fallacious and simply an effort at evasion.

The nature of your responses here simply reaffirms the pattern in your manner. You are a troll. Please stop.

You calling me a troll in a thread where people regard every person who voted for Trump, brain dead, and stupid, is rich.
Why don’t you object to any of them?

Your responses being lefty talking points has been addressed in other posts.

 

[(Q)]

L

Its a good thing you have no credibility outside of your leftie bubble…
Otherwise you would weely hoit moi feeelins

You've got feelins?

 

[(Q)]

It's already happening. Morning Joe and Mika are absolutely so terrified of the retribution promised to them by Trump, they flew down to Mara Lago and kissed the ring. Immediately, MSNBC and CNBC were put on the chopping block up for sale by Comcast, as the CEO does not want to deal with the retribution. These people are cowards and shouldn't be journalists. They've lost all credibility.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Trumpland, Trumpland, uber alles, uber alles.