Climate-gate

Aqueous Id said:
A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who breathes out lies will perish.
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The focus of your rant exposes your own weakness, ironically while missing my point...no surprize there! See the issue in question in my previous post.

In light of the Words you have chosen/quoted, I have only one thing to say to you and they are the Words of Jesus (the One mentioned in my previous post):

"For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.”

There is no 'pleading the Fifth' before Him.
 
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photizo said:
Not necessarily. Check out videos whose sole purpose is to expose/underscore the abysmal ignorance of the average voter.
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I was thinking more of the ignorance of you. And your videos are spam - discourteous, as well as dishonest.

photizo said:
More often than not, if they do vote, they haven't the foggiest notion as to why they are voting for their particular candidate, nor have they even a rudimentary understanding of the party platform
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That's irrelevant. What they don't have here (in the US, and in this discussion) is any leftist perspective or insight or language or framework for description - they have very clearly been almost completely insulated from leftist propaganda and leftist views on most major issues. The entire body of leftist thought, analysis, and description, is alien to them : they will do things like describe the corporate environment as a continual bombardment of leftist propaganda/worldview - deeply silly, of course, but in addition obviously completely unacquainted with leftwing political ideology.

photizo said:
There is no 'pleading the Fifth' before Him.
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Give a fundy enough time, they will eventually get around to invoking their Deity as a threat - somebody who will beat up the people who are making fun of them, which is everybody except their fellow fundys. They have to feel unfairly persecuted, because that is intrinsic to their image of the true believer, but that means there must be some way to see their persecutors punished, or their Deity is unjust.

The only way out of that trap is to recognize that the people mocking the fundy are in fact correct, their criticisms well taken, their viewpoint informed and their observations informative - and change.

One starting point here would be recognizing and admitting that there was no "Climate-gate" - the entire subject is imaginary, invented, with no more basis in physical reality than the other inventions of those people, such as the claim that Iraq was about to arm Al Qaida with nukes in 2003.
 
Photizo said:
I'm under no such illusions. On the contrary, many of you would do well to do some serious soul searching with respect to the study you cite--especially as it concerns your approach to those who, in recognition of a higher Authority/Ability, subordinate themselves along with any natural abilities to the Word of God Incarnate/Written...this only makes sense given that "He is the image of the invisible God, the Firstborn of all creation. For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities-- all things have been created through Him and for Him (including all of you). He himself existed before anything did, and he holds all things together." Yes, He enables you to take "every breath you take"...He sustains every aspect of all you're aware* of. Consider your status with respect to the aforementioned study... If He chooses to enlighten you, let these be the first scriptures you memorize:

"Because of the privilege and authority God has given me, I give each of you this warning: Don't think you are better than you really are. Be honest in your evaluation of yourselves, measuring yourselves by the faith God has given us."

*that you are aware of things surrounding you to the extent you are is solely because of Him
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The privilege and authority God has given you? The privilege and authority God has given you. God must be hard up for representation choosing somebody who is 'all for' fucking up his planet in HIS name. Wonder what God thinks about humans who don't give a fuck about the home he made for them. You probably think it doesn't matter since God is coming to rescue his proselytizing minions from their disrespect for the home God made for them. I'm pretty sure God won't side with those who fall into that category. No pleading the fifth in front of him. LOL. God won't think your ignorance is very funny since he also gave you the ability to reason. Which you piss on every time you open your pie hole.
 
Photizo said:
"For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.”
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Romans 2:6 - God will repay each person according to what they have done.

How do you think he will repay those who have shat upon his creation through greed, pollution and the rape of the environment?
 
I always get disturbed by anyone claiming that God spoke to them. If God is unknowable, how can anyone communicate and worse, get permission to wage war in His name? The hubris astounds me.
 
billvon said:
Romans 2:6 - God will repay each person according to what they have done.

How do you think he will repay those who have shat upon his creation through greed, pollution and the rape of the environment?
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How will he deal with people who defy his word?

Gen 1:15
The lord god took the man and put him in the garden of eden to work it and care for it.

Ps 24:1
The earth is the lord's, and everything in it, the world and all who live in it.

Col 1:16
For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visble and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all tbings hav been created through him and for him.

Not only does the bible charge us as caretakers of this earth, but it reminds us repeatedly that our tenure and lease on this world are temporary.
 
Write4U said:
I always get disturbed by anyone claiming that God spoke to them. If God is unknowable, how can anyone communicate and worse, get permission to wage war in His name? The hubris astounds me.
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Speaking of hubris:
Please avoid reducing the name of GOD to personal pronouns. Barring that, please use "she" instead of "he".
"He" offends the hell out of "her". Think of how many times you've used "he" for GOD, then think of how man apologies you're gonna owe.

Bad juju
Bad carma
 
We need to get this thread back on track. No need to let photizo try to hijack it with his nonsense.
 
Trippy said:
How will he deal with people who defy his word?

Gen 1:15
The lord god took the man and put him in the garden of eden to work it and care for it.

Ps 24:1
The earth is the lord's, and everything in it, the world and all who live in it.

Col 1:16
For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visble and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all tbings hav been created through him and for him.

Not only does the bible charge us as caretakers of this earth, but it reminds us repeatedly that our tenure and lease on this world are temporary.
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Amen.

billvon said:
Romans 2:6 - God will repay each person according to what they have done.

How do you think he will repay those who have shat upon his creation through greed, pollution and the rape of the environment?
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According to His Word, He says... what? "...according to what they have done." and ---> "For there is no partiality with God."


p.s. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ns-can-name-the-three-branches-of-government/
 
Photizo said:
According to His Word, He says... what? "...according to what they have done."
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Definitely agreed. So ask yourself if you want to be a defiler or a protector of the environment when you are standing before him. (or Her if you prefer.)
 
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We need to get this thread back on track. No need to let photizo try to hijack it with his nonsense.
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This is Photizo's thread, in the first place - and there is quite a bit more deflection and nonsense on it than photizo's alone.

sculptor said:
hell of a biased lunatic fringe article there trippy:
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The accounting firm of PriceWaterhouseCooper is now in the lunatic fringe of climate alarmists, joining the Pentagon, the governments of most Arctic bordering countries, and the body of scientific researchers in the field.

I've seen lampshades that were outweighed by their fringes, but it's an odd use of the word otherwise.
 
I've been reading a book by Tim Ball , called " The Deliberate CORRUPTION OF CLIMATE Science , just new , a 2014 publishing ( ISBN# 978-0-9888777-4-0 )

I was in the Library , and it was displayed as new addition

I've not finished it yet but so far what he is saying is that the IPCC ( intergovernmental panel on climate change ) has ignored the real science and that the CRU ( climate research unit ) was involved in peer-reviews papers which had IPCC members , there was an agenda

of course there is a lot more going on than this , as the book gets into

read please

river
 
http://news.yahoo.com/noaa-yet-more-global-heat-records-fall-august-164947207.html said:
The globe smashed more heat records last month, including Earth's hottest August and summer, federal meteorologists said Thursday. May, June and August all set global heat records this year ... breaking a record set in 1998. It's more than just one month.

It was the warmest meteorological summer — June, July and August — on record for the globe, again beating out 1998. "It's not a done deal, but we are increasingly moving" toward breaking the hottest year record set in 2010, said NOAA climate monitoring chief Derek Arndt. "This is the outcome of warming over the long-term."

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration records go back to 1880.
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What I would like to see is how close to 35C various parts of the globe came for any hour at in the year.
 
Originally Posted by http://news.yahoo.com/noaa-yet-more-global-heat-records-fall-august-164947207.html

The globe smashed more heat records last month, including Earth's hottest August and summer, federal meteorologists said Thursday. May, June and August all set global heat records this year ... breaking a record set in 1998.

But it's more than just one month. It was the warmest meteorological summer — June, July and August — on record for the globe, again beating out 1998. "It's not a done deal, but we are increasingly moving" toward breaking the hottest year record set in 2010, said NOAA climate monitoring chief Derek Arndt. "This is the outcome of warming over the long-term."

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration records go back to 1880.
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perhaps but in the book I'm reading , ( MWP ) Medieval Warm Period , was found to have higher temperatures than we have now , a thousand yrs. ago
 
river said:
I've been reading a book by Tim Ball , called " The Deliberate CORRUPTION OF CLIMATE Science , just new , a 2014 publishing ( ISBN# 978-0-9888777-4-0 ) ... he is saying is that the IPCC ( intergovernmental panel on climate change ) has ignored the real science ... river
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Nothing new there to me, I bet, or to NOAA either. - See post 1478. This has been globally the hottest summer ever - well at least since 1880 when reasonably accurate global records began.

Hope he tells the three main reason why IPCC puts out crap as I have been telling for a few years:
(1) IPCC does not do science, but follows a political compromise processes that 190 nation must agree to before any report can be released (Some political hacks re-write sections before approval, when original text would cause too much expense to their government if not just ignored.)

(2) Oil company personnel sever on the IPCC staff, in high positions (including one committee chair). They know how their bread is buttered.

(3) Reports freeze all the positive feed back term - a snap shot, not a model. Then IPCC projects (for highest probably scenario) into the future the linear slope of the current change rates; but Global Warming is a very dynamic non-linear process with rapidly changing feed backs. This is why IPCC never can get highest probably scenario correct if predicting more than 6 years ahead. For example, in 2007 (I think it was) report they projected Arctic Ocean would be briefly "ice free" after 2100; then in next report changed it to "after 2050." etc. They make new report every half decade or so to correct their prior errors.

My dollars to your doughnuts say correct answer is "before October 2020."
 
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