Candidate File: Obama, Barack H.

Brutus, how do you feel about the GOPs latest attack, suggesting that Obama's willingness to meet with Raul Castro is dishonorable. There have been similar allegations that a future President Obama's talking with Ahmedinejad would also be unforgiveable. Do you ascribe to the notion that a President must be isolated from overt communication with controversial foreign leaders? Do you believe in the isolation of the Executive from diplomatic "cooties"?
 
hypewaders said:
I could never take loaded questions like that without attacking the question and questioners. The "Al-Qaeda" label is deceptively misapplied in Iraq, by the US media, by the present White House, and by 2-bit me-too Iraqi militias. Hillary obviously had other difficulties than mine, having supported an unpopular war at the outset.

The plain truth is perilous to broach regarding Iraq, as with the Israel litmus-tests. There are so many things in our national dialogue that the public has been fed such a load of shit about, that serious people need considerable time and opportunity to gently educate. I don't believe that the public can't handle the truth in the long term. But in the short term, I know that the US public can't handle the unvarnished truth, without falling into programmed, insincere herd outrage at heresy. Sometimes when in ignorant company, smarter people must bite their tongues so as not to offend.
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You've really got that John Kerry / Al Gore look down your nose at the little people thing down to an art form hype. It's almost like you took a class in how to write like a snob.

Serious people need to gently educate? You sound like a Nazi.
 
15ofthe19 said:
You've really got that John Kerry / Al Gore look down your nose at the little people thing down to an art form hype. It's almost like you took a class in how to write like a snob.

Serious people need to gently educate? You sound like a Nazi.
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Er, why? As to the "little people" thing, if the shoe fits...
 
15/19: "Serious people need to gently educate? You sound like a Nazi."

When was the last time you listened to a Nazi? They pumped up and exploited the same kind of fears that I'm trying to poke holes in.

If Obama had tried to assail the grossly-overblown al-Qaeda myth in Iraq during that debate, it would have meant sudden death to his candidacy, at the hands of the corporate-media mob. There are truer parallels with 1930s fascism than my disgust. If you open your eyes, you'll see that in our most public arenas, lies are consistently promoted over reason. Sincere politicians must watch their step very carefully, when a powerful mythology has been glorified by a warfare state, and the crowd is primed and ready to tear heretics apart.
 
Senator says he's smoke-free

Source: Seattle Times
Link: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2004248475_apobamaellendegeneres.html
Title: "Obama Says He's Quit Smoking", by Associated Press
Date: February 28, 2008

I must confess, I can't imagine quitting in the middle of a presidential campaign. Of course, if he had to "sneak" his cigarettes, that would help. I can't imagine it's easy to find the time. ("Barack? What are you doing in there?" Um ... nothing! I'll be right out!)

Barack Obama said he has successfully quit smoking cigarettes despite the pressures of a closely contested and lengthy presidential campaign.

"I've been chewing on this Nicorette, which tastes like you're chewing on ground pepper—but it does help," the Democratic candidate said in an interview that aired Thursday on "The Ellen DeGeneres Show."

His wife, Michelle, had used his smoking as leverage when the two were discussing whether he should run for president. She would agree only if Obama agreed to give up smoking.

"I had been sneaking three cigarettes, four cigarettes a day for a while, and she said if you're going to do this you've got to stop—precisely because the stress was going to increase, and it'll just get worse," Obama said. "So that's an example of my wife making me a better man once again."

(Associated Press)
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Good show, Senator. I think something like this could actually have become an issue in the general. Given the rancid conservative ejaculations voters swallowed in 2004, it isn't hard to imagine someone saying, "Well, I don't want to vote for a smoker. It sets a bad example for the kids."
 
15ofthe19 said:
Yes, it worked out so well for the aforementioned POTUS wannabes.
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Yes. It is better for a potential "POTUS wannabe" to speak to the public like they are stupid and treat them as such. Treat 'em dumb and for god's sake, DO NOT USE BIG WORDS! Speak to them like they're edumicated!:rolleyes:
 
15/19 said:
Yes, it worked out so well for the aforementioned POTUS wannabes.
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A lot better than it worked out for the insecure little guys who took offense at what they saw (after being reminded a few dozen times, in loud and simple and slowly declaimed words, by the regular radio guys who tell them what to think ) as snobbery.

They just lost an election. They didn't end up voting for W&Co because they thought he respected them.

Honest to Pete, do you guys actually think the Fox News programmers respect the people they're stroking ?
 
Obama's racist and marxist church. Obama is a proud member of Trinity United Church of Christ, a church whose membership swear by "black" ethics such as


Commitment to the Black Community
Commitment to the Black Family
Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community
Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System
 
zarlok: "Obviously you've never been to college."

That's been said before, but it doesn't make it true.

"Obama is a proud member of Trinity United Church of Christ, a church whose membership swear by "black" ethics..."

Oh NO!!! Black Ethics! Is that like black magic? Source, please.
 
hypewaders said:
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In secret ritual, B. Hussein, Obama receives Evil-Muzlin-Terrist Poison-Stick​
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That is fundamentally unRepublican and, ipso facto, unAmerican! :mad:
 
Barack Obama is a liar. No idea Rezko was damaged goods? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXAQ3BHTbjs


He will probably also renege on his agreement with Mccain on public funds for the general election. Funny for a guy that claims that you should not be able to wave a tidal wave of cash into the white house when that is all he has done in the primaries, a bit of a hypocrite.
 
I'm not sure what Obama originally said on using public financing for the general election, but he legitimately seems to have overlooked the loopholes. It would be pointless to use general financing and then allow the same thing to continue through independent groups and other methods.
 
Exhumed said:
I'm not sure what Obama originally said on using public financing for the general election, but he legitimately seems to have overlooked the loopholes. It would be pointless to use general financing and then allow the same thing to continue through independent groups and other methods.
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It might be "pointless", but otherwise Obama is just lieing again. on top of being a hypocrite.
 
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