not ignoring it trying to make a point why do chrhistians ignore the laws in the OT they are part of the bible also? i do believe the The Ten Commandments were essentially a summary of the entire Old Testament law.
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not ignoring it trying to make a point why do chrhistians ignore the laws in the OT they are part of the bible also? i do believe the The Ten Commandments were essentially a summary of the entire Old Testament law.
Jesus was the ultimate sacrifice for atonement, that was accomplished by all of the individual sacrifices in the OT.
Like the law of love overrides the laws you mentioned from the OT.
Here is an example too that proves your point about looking at the bible comprehensively. The bible says that you should abide by the laws of your land. So how could I stone someone to death?
They stoned to death adulterers in the OT. But jesus comes along and says "let he who is without sin cast the 1st stone". Jesus was supposedly without sin and he didn't cast the stone, just sent the adulterer home with some good advice.
Those exist but are were meant towards the people of that time. There are parts of the Bible that are only direct for those of that time.
But here is the deal, doing those things do not make you a Christian. Faith in Jesus Christ's death and ressurection is.
Would this be true for memberships in other groups? Must one have read all documents related to the Republican Party to consider oneself a member? If one adheres to 'the scientific model', what would be an adequate considered adequate reading background? or should one be tested on methodology?
IOW can one not have decided that one GOT the core of the religion, and reached this via processes that included some reading, but not all reading, of a given core text?
And how far should one carry this? Should one read in the original languages, since translation will shift certain ideas? Should one also analyze the process through which the church selected out certain texts for inclusion and others for exclusion?
What does 'reading' mean? I know for sure that I can read the same text as someone else and one of us will understand much more than the other - or even more complicated, each of us will understand different aspects or even in different ways. If we were Christians and the text is the Bible are we necessarily equally Christian?
If we each read the whole thing, but hate the poor with all our hearts are we more Christian than someone who doesn't even know what the Bible has to say about the poor, but somehow felt, through what they heard in church that the poor should be treated with respect and love?
I realize I am mixing necessary and sufficient causes here, but I want to make fun of the whole issue from a few angles.
When religions people (seem to) choose a worldview, one can run to their documents. But everyone has (at least one) worldview). The non-religious can point to contradictions in said texts or, in this case, challenge the status of the religious person for not having read 'the whole thing.' But non-religious people....are they held to this same standard? What world view do you have and have you read all the relevent texts? If you are capitalist have you read Smith? If you've vote for Neo-cons have you read the core texts of Neo-conservatism? etc. etc. with liberal versions. If you believe in science - whatever that would mean - what texts have you read and how did you decide that you read the right ones and enough of them? Or how did you determine you really understand science?
Are you a dualist, a monist, a physicalist, a materialist - either sense of this term - and have you read the correct texts? have you been tested by experts to see if you really understand whatever worldview(s) you think you have?
Do the various worldviews you hold all work together?
Well first thing. I do not proclaim myself to be a born again christian.
I am a Christian i believe Jesus.
Secondly i have read the bible from cover to cover. But many people who have heard only the message of Jesus and accept the basic foundation beliefs of the gospel are Christian's and i believe will have eternity with Jesus without ever having opened a bible.
Otherwise literacy and access to a bible and the time to read it would be pre-requisites to one being redeemed by the Messiah Jesus.
Also it is not about ones ability to "Live to a T" by what it says. It is about one believing to a T in the message it gives.
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There is such a teaching in the OT. And by faith i trust that it is good advice. i don't know why but i trust that it is good. But wearing mixed fibres or not wearing mixed fibres does not make me a good person or a bad person.
Yes this is also on the OT. And again i believe it is good advice. It probably relates to health issues as the first example may do. but again its a trust issue. trusting in the advice of God for the betterment of out lives here on earth. But once again having tattoos or not having tattoos does not transform one into a good or a bad person.
Yes this is in the OT and again i believe it is related to health issues. I do not eat Shellfish because i trust in the advice of God on the issue, time may come when i am hungry and need food and i do eat shellfish because there is nothing else on offer. I am not justified by my avoidance of shellfish nor is my eternal salvation removed if i do eat shellfish. If i ever do.
Yes this is in the OT and again i believe it is related to health issues. I do avoid eating pork but in my society i an often offered pork in meals offered to me when i am a guest. I eat whatever is put before me because that's what the NT tells me i should do rather then cause unnecessary offence to the giver. Once again I am not justified by my avoidance of pork nor is my eternal salvation removed if i do eat pork.
Yes anyone who even hates another person is worthy of death. So if one is cursing their mom or dad then of course it is an act of hate. Now as a Christian i am told to pass judgement to God. So while it was an OT commandment to execute one who cursed their father or mother such judgement is taken out of the hands of followers of the Messiah Jesus. It is God who Judges.
Don't remember reading that one in the Bible. Don't believe they ever burnt people at the stake. But if you find a quote from the bible saying so then i will deal with it for you.
Yes that is in the OT. But as explained above in the cursing of ones mother and father such judging has been taken out of the Hands of followers of the Messiah Jesus and is now in the Hands of God.
Yes that is in the OT. But as explained above in the cursing of ones mother and father such judging has been taken out of the Hands of followers of the Messiah Jesus and is now in the Hands of God.
This one is not as clear cut as some state. (excuse the pun
) The scriptures state:Leviticus 21
5They shall not make baldness upon their head, neither shall they shave off the corner of their beard, nor make any cuttings in their flesh.
But this directive was only given the priests. It was not given as a directive to all in the OT.
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