British VS US music

What is better US or British music


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Brits: 60's pop and rock, 70's Progressive Rock, 90's Dance Electronica
US: Blues, Jazz, RnB, Soul, 70's Jazz Fusion, 70's Rock, 80's Rock, 90's Hip Hop

Historically, US wins hands down (btw, what exactly does that phrase mean?)
 
U.S. for the oldies, Brits for the classics, and everything afterwards doesn't matter. ;)

Other bands not listed to even it out:

Brits: Traffic, The Animals, Jethro Tull, Ten Years After, David Bowie, The Moody Blues, Cat Stevens, Emerson Lake and Palmer, Donovan

Both: Crosby, Stills & Nash

US: Buffalo Springfield, Neil Young, The Byrds, Allman Brothers, Jefferson Airplane, Janis Joplin, John Sebastian, Paul Butterfield Blues Band

But yeah, for me, the Brits, hands down, although if you asked every single one of those groups who was better, they'd say the U.S. with their rock 'n rock and blues that started it all.

wins hands down (btw, what exactly does that phrase mean?)

It means it easily wins with no effort. Like fighting someone with your hands tied behind their back, never having to lift a finger, etc.

- N
 
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Zak, you and many of the people outside the U.S. don't seem to have the enzyme to digest some of the music that is dearest to us. I could not play in bar bands if I was not prepared to do "Sweet Home Alabama," "Free Bird," or "Gimme Three Steps" on request. Yet you folks apparently aren't even familiar with Lynyrd Skynyrd, not to mention Molly Hatchet ("Flirtin' with Disaster") and a couple of dozen other bands that comprise an entire genre known as "Southern rock" with a capital S.

Then there was the "L.A. Sound" of the 1970s. The Eagles are probably the band that musicologists use to epitomize that genre, and "Hotel California," "Take It Easy," and "Already Gone" are staples on the West Coast. But even Fleetwood Mac was hailed as part of the L.A. sound once they assimilated Americans Buckingham and Nicks--and relocated to L.A.

How about heavy metal? Your guys may have invented it, but once Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath disintegrated our guys took over. Metallica and Guns'n'Roses practically reinvented it. Judas Priest and Motorhead are barely footnotes in that chapter of music. Our guys have kept it going and keep changing it. Speed metal, thrash metal, funk metal... those are American sounds. And the new stuff I call infrared metal because of its sound spectrum, like Korn and Limp Bizkit... we've run away with the genre.

Corporate rock. No one admits to liking it but it's an enormous catalog and somebody is out there listening to it. You've got Foreigner all right, but we've got Boston, Journey, Styx and a dozen other bands in that style, and our friends up north gave us Loverboy, one of my favorite concerts.

And since we always count Canada as part of America when it suits us, how about that entire vein of depressed Canadian chanteuses that I love so much: Sarah McLachlan, Jann Arden, Alanis Morissette? You've got nothing like that.

Don't get me wrong, I love British music, going back to when "I Wanna Hold Your Hand" knocked my radio on its ear. I still cry over Sandy Denny's demise and I always take the trouble to read Kate Bush's lyric sheets so I can get past her accent. I've tried to turn everybody I know onto "Trippin' " by Robbie Williams. I have Sporty Spice's solo album. My wife and I met because of David Bowie and we have a shrine to him on our mantel.

But when you ask, "Who's done the best music?" there has been music created on both sides that the people on the other side don't even know about because they don't relate to it.

Like, no one has mentioned the Grateful Dead????

tablariddim said:
Hands down
How fitting, it's a British term. From Yahoo:
Just about all the etymological sites we came across agreed that the term dates back to the mid-19th century and the genteel world of British horse racing. Back then, a jockey who found himself way ahead as he approached the finish line would relax his grip on the reins and drop his hands. Not as confrontational as a spiked football, but still a bit of gestural in-your-face-ness. By the late 19th century, the idiom had been extended to non-racing contexts, and it remains in frequent use today.
 
Current American: Floater, The Flaming Lips, Pearl Jam, Mudhoney.

Current British: Radiohead (who else?)

The historical road, however, favors the Brits: The Beatles, The Who, Pink Floyd. I mean, I like KISS and all, but really. And I can't let this pass without tipping my hat to Mr. Peter Gabriel. One would have a hard time believing the live show could be so much until one has actually witnessed the thing.
 
Zakariya04:

In the 90's the brits also had Oasis, Blur, Supergrass abnd so on and so forth.

True. But I would say American bands were overall better quality during the 90's. America started grunge, for instance, ska, gangster rap, modern country, boy bands...

The US is ahead in house music, garage and the like, but miles behind in Drum and bass.

Yes. This is fair enough.

i feel british music is less production focused in gerenral, and is more raw...

I would have to say that is very true in terms of the big acts. But AMerica is getting its rawness in the new acoustic-driven soft rock and such. It's being less and less "produced".
 
Current British: Radiohead (who else?)

Heck! I forgot to mention them! :(

Zak, you and many of the people outside the U.S. don't seem to have the enzyme to digest some of the music that is dearest to us. I could not play in bar bands if I was not prepared to do "Sweet Home Alabama," "Free Bird," or "Gimme Three Steps" on request. Yet you folks apparently aren't even familiar with Lynyrd Skynyrd, not to mention Molly Hatchet ("Flirtin' with Disaster") and a couple of dozen other bands that comprise an entire genre known as "Southern rock" with a capital S.

Incorrect. I'm not an American, but I've grown up with real rock'n'roll, blues and jazz music that was originally from US. I'm delightful and I shudder everytime I hear "Sweet Home...".
 
Brits: 60's pop and rock, 70's Progressive Rock, 90's Dance Electronica
US: Blues, Jazz, RnB, Soul, 70's Jazz Fusion, 70's Rock, 80's Rock, 90's Hip Hop

Historically, US wins hands down (btw, what exactly does that phrase mean?)

i completely disagree with 70s rock, we had led zep, the who, b.sabbath, pink floyd to name but a few
 
Not to mention Sex Pistols, Buzzcocks, Siouxsie and the Banshees and many other great punk bands of the 70s.
 
i completely disagree with 70s rock, we had led Zep, the Who, B.Sabbath, Pink Floyd to name but a few
I tend to agree. Most musicologists point to the 1960s as the era of British dominance. But as has been pointed out there were lots of great American performers during that decade. Quicksilver, the Dead, Janis Joplin, Judy Collins, Dylan, Baez, Simon and Garfunkel, Joni Mitchell, CSNY (okay I'm including Canadians but so many of them immigrated) and others kept us on a par with the British influence.

It was in the 1970s that, to me, it seemed that the U.K. was the home of rock and roll. We had Southern rock and the L.A. sound, and later disco and corporate rock. But they had heavy metal, progressive rock and art rock, which added a whole new dimension to the genre. Yes, Genesis, Gentle Giant, David Bowie, Mott the Hoople, Renaissance, Roxy Music, Eric Clapton, Robin Trower, Deep Purple.

I might miss Lynyrd Skynyrd and the Eagles, but I'd be happier if disco and corporate rock had never happened. The British contribution to rock and roll during the 1970s shaped the future of music.
 
Fraggle,

i take your points on board even though sweet home alabama is rubbish in my humble opinion!!

PJ- thank you for your input too.

With the invention things, the first real boy band was arguably the beatles, and SKA was not invented in the US but Jamaica, Bob marley and those guys were doing SKA before reggae. You are right neil young and the like really started grunge and country music is always associated with the Yanks.


oh and fraggle, the only 2 us bands of the sixties you mentioned which come anywhere close is sIMON AND garfunkel and dylan
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zak
 
oh and fraggle, the only 2 us bands of the sixties you mentioned which come anywhere close is sIMON AND garfunkel and dylan

Buffalo Springfield were the American Beatles. And The Grateful Dead, probably the most popular live jamming band ever.

But yes, folk rock, rules. I think I dropped my harmonica, Albert.

- N
 
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