Atheism and political apathy

[S.A.M.]

I mean statistics that show they are "the most"

 

[pavlosmarcos]

I mean statistics that show they are "the most"

Asked and answered, lets play the religious card, prove it wrong, lol.

 

[iceaura]

What's religious about celebrating the Summer and Winter Days, the midwinter and midsummer festivals? Most of them directly relate to the changing seasons and are celebratory in nature, nothing "religious" there. It's ancient naturalism passed on from father to son and that's what the world pagan means around here.

And I'm happy for you. But you must recognize that even simply determining the day of solstice, in the old times, required something of a religion - the celebrations you speak of have old roots.

In fact, implicit atheism in Albania still has the upper hand. And obviously during the constitutional suppression the Albanian society was not only organically, but also officially atheist. And there is sth. else to be taken into account. Religions, given that they were the invader's ideology, have never been accepted as part of Albanian culture, they're seen as contamination from the national point of view.

Nevertheless, there are many Christians and Muslims in Albania, and they are now free to worship in their ways, no? Hence "secular" rather than "atheist" for the society overall, in the terms of this thread.

 

[S.A.M.]

Asked and answered, lets play the religious card, prove it wrong, lol.

Not really. Lets look at your first link.

Their "philosophy"

* Atheism accepts the natural world as all there is.
* To live without god beliefs is intellectually stimulating.
* To find one's own purpose and be responsible for one's own life is exciting.
* To be free of the imagined surveillance of good and evil spirits is liberating.
* To seek a peaceful world through work, friendship, and civic action is life-affirming.
* Organized atheism supports the right to hold religious beliefs but vigorously opposes religious behavior that is politically and socially predatory or harms innocent people.
* We support the social and political right to be religion-free.
* We support state-church separation.
* We oppose religious authoritarians and support all the rights they attack, including abortion rights, gay rights, physician aid in dying, and all the rest.

Human rights indeed!

 

[pavlosmarcos]

Not really. Lets look at your first link.
Human rights indeed!

I don't see a problem there.

It go's on to say.

During its struggle for independence from Britain, India had a term to express their philosophy: satyagraha. It means "to insist on what is true as a social obligation." This is what Atheists For Human Rights will do in our struggle to be religion-free.

Let us become post-religious, post-national, Universal Humans.


A Proud Tradition

Atheists For Human Rights is proud to be among those people identified by Nobel Prize winner Leonid Hurwicz as "interveners" in society -- those who behave ethically simply because it is the right thing to do. Our unique Moral High Ground project stands uncompromisingly in support of the victims of inhumane religious doctrines. We find no "gray area" that justifies the harm done to women, gays, children, the hopelessly ill, and human progress by dogma-based laws and policies.

Our moral philosophy is inspired by our colleagues at the Atheist Centre in India, whose commitment is to "speak the truth as a social necessity" as they work for social reform.

Yes, human rights indeed, else it's something like this.

 

[S.A.M.]

To insist on what is true. Umm.