Arthur C. Clarke dies at 90

Hmmm, it would appear that we have completely different world views making fruitful communication difficult. ANyway...

(You appeared not to notice that I left no. 2 out of my response, I'm sure you can work out why)

ElectricFetus said:
All of them,

1) the business community would not have it power if people were not put off my future shock, the ability to pander to people about what they would like to be true over what is actually true would not be possible without their understand of science and reasoning be damage by future shock.
Click to expand...
Not at all. The business community has power because they make things, get the rules fixed to suit them, and are active economically. This has nothing to do with future shock.


ElectricFetus said:
3) Again rather then blame politicians people see this as a failing of science, again future shock.
Click to expand...
No, that is not future shock, that is effectively the same as you, as a small child, being promised an ice cream at the end of a long hot walk. Instead, you get a small bit of chocolate. This is not future shock.

ElectricFetus said:
4) Again peoples regression from science and that the cycle is self feeding postive loop as science become increasingly hard to understand as they become increasingly ignorate and shy away from it
Click to expand...
You'r response does not answer my point, therefore I assume it is correct, and you don't understand what I meant.

ElectricFetus said:
5) Again why do people become religious and fight each other, because they strayed from science.
Click to expand...
No, you will note that there are less religious people around. INstead they are fighting a valiant rearguard which nevertheless fouls up a lot of things, from stem cell research to abortion. Science has nothing to say on the topic of religion, except when religious believers make comments about the world which are scientifically testable. (Eg I can make my child better by prayer. Oops, they just died. Or, "I can fly thanks to my belief, and to prove it I shall jump off this clidd" *splat*, or "The earth was created in 4004BC, and I'm going to ignore the entirety of modern science to make that claim)
Now, some people will cling to their religion as they face future shock, but that is not the be all and end all of it.


ElectricFetus said:
6) that is the descriptor of future shock.
Click to expand...
Not as far as I can remember, although it is a few years since I read it. Have you read it recently?


ElectricFetus said:
Future shock is not how a individual reacts to processes out pacing their ability to react but rather it about how societies react, and much of what was predicted in the books decades ago has come true.
Click to expand...

Ummmmm, really? I'm sure you'll be able to give proper evidence.
 
Orleander said:
why did he live in Ceylon anyways?? Just liked it or did he have other reasons?
Click to expand...
I thought it was because he liked it. I don't remember if I have a biography of Clarke in my library.
He probably moved also because he appears to have been homosexual, and Britain before the 90's was not a nice place to be homosexual.
 
http://rfmcdpei.livejournal.com/798526.html

From Charles Stross:
"I don't believe you can generalize from Clarke to SF writers in general. My understanding is that Clarke is not only homosexual but left the UK in a hurry in the early 1960s, one jump ahead of an arrest warrant – I may be misinformed in this, but it would explain why he didn't return for nearly forty years."
 
guthrie said:
Hmmm, it would appear that we have completely different world views making fruitful communication difficult. ANyway...
Click to expand...

Communication that fine, arguing, no I'm not going to argue over this. Yes there are many factors, but their are fewer underlying social trends which make those factors possible, future shock be the primary one.
 
He was well known for being poor at representing human relationships. There is a definite lack of sex and characters having romances. Which at the time he started writing was perfectly normal anyway.
 
Diving underwatre involves an air supply, wetsuit etc. Have you tried getting them onto someone who effectively has no motor control?
 
mike wilson was clarke's business partner and friend. they had a scuba shop back in the day. i hung out with wilson's kids and fucked the daughter. once

/snigger

looky here, idiot
clarke was not 90 all the goddamn time.

The Treasure of the Great Reef
 
Last edited:
guthrie said:
Diving underwatre involves an air supply, wetsuit etc. Have you tried getting them onto someone who effectively has no motor control?
Click to expand...

If you can't get a wet suit on someone who has no motor control, how do they get clothes on him?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top