Good, OK, fine.
Have it your way.
I am talking about math, physics and the universe which I consider to be the question at hand. You appear to be talking about current computing power.
Read what I said, look at the links, see what I'm actually saying, and I'll be happy to discuss it with you. This forum is a discussion, not a debate.
Otherwise, we probably both have better things to do.
BTW, one of the "non sceintists" in my links was Alan Turrng. Remeber him?
But in answer to your questions, in hope they will be considred for a change:
I have never said I think we are living in a simulation. Where did you get that?
I think in the near future the human brain will be simulated by neural networks and or quantum computers. I can and will provide refrences if kindly requested.
I don't have that number at my finger tips. I have it in some of my books and will look it up and provide it "if" intellegent discussion starts up.
Kind Regards,
Hardalee
I am talking about math, physics and the universe which I consider to be the question at hand. You appear to be talking about current computing power.
Read what I said, look at the links, see what I'm actually saying, and I'll be happy to discuss it with you. This forum is a discussion, not a debate.
Otherwise, we probably both have better things to do.
BTW, one of the "non sceintists" in my links was Alan Turrng. Remeber him?
But in answer to your questions, in hope they will be considred for a change:
I have never said I think we are living in a simulation. Where did you get that?
I think in the near future the human brain will be simulated by neural networks and or quantum computers. I can and will provide refrences if kindly requested.
I don't have that number at my finger tips. I have it in some of my books and will look it up and provide it "if" intellegent discussion starts up.
Kind Regards,
Hardalee
“ Originally Posted by hardalee
The universe is the ultimate quantum computer. ”
No, it's not.
Yes it is.
Every particle in the universe obeys the quatum laws as it computes the probabilities as to were it will be in the next insant.
The whole universe could be a computer simulation and no one would ever know.
If our brain programming does not match computer programming, than it's not a computer simulation. It's something else, we don't know exactly what.
Ah no. In research for Strong AI, the interpretation on how a system becomes sentient requires it to work out it's own logic, a system that works for it. It does have governing parameters in it's initial programming but that's no different to having governing parameters in regards to your physical make up for you.
So a Strong AI could quite well define something that would be different from a Weak AI counterpart (which is programmed on the basis of decision matrix's already being pre-considered by the programmer)
As stated previously...
The universe shouldn't be assumed to be a Simulation but an Emulation. Simulations are used to make "false realities" that use "synthetic data". Emulations attempt to encompass absolute duplications, if not integrated fully as a/the "real".
Ah no. In research for Strong AI, the interpretation on how a system becomes sentient requires it to work out it's own logic, a system that works for it. It does have governing parameters in it's initial programming but that's no different to having governing parameters in regards to your physical make up for you.
So a Strong AI could quite well define something that would be different from a Weak AI counterpart (which is programmed on the basis of decision matrix's already being pre-considered by the programmer)
As stated previously...
The universe shouldn't be assumed to be a Simulation but an Emulation. Simulations are used to make "false realities" that use "synthetic data". Emulations attempt to encompass absolute duplications, if not integrated fully as a/the "real".
It's not actually hard to simulate the universe and all of its atoms.
Electrons... I have seen one on the internet, and it was a blur.
What?!!!
There are about 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 atoms in the universe.
That's a few more than 2000.
Do you have any idea how you would go about imagining an electron, or an atom for that matter? I don't think you do. And what about photons?
for the simulator to work just as well as the real thing.There are about 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 atoms in the universe.
What?!!!
There are about 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 atoms in the universe.
That's a few more than 2000.
Do you have any idea how you would go about imagining an electron, or an atom for that matter? I don't think you do. And what about photons?
I am talking about math, physics and the universe which I consider to be the question at hand. You appear to be talking about current computing power.
Read what I said, look at the links, see what I'm actually saying, and I'll be happy to discuss it with you. This forum is a discussion, not a debate.
Otherwise, we probably both have better things to do.
BTW, one of the "non sceintists" in my links was Alan Turrng. Remeber him?
But in answer to your questions, in hope they will be considred for a change:
I have never said I think we are living in a simulation. Where did you get that?
I think in the near future the human brain will be simulated by neural networks and or quantum computers. I can and will provide refrences if kindly requested.
I don't have that number at my finger tips. I have it in some of my books and will look it up and provide it "if" intellegent discussion starts up.
Kind Regards,
Hardalee
Ah no. In research for Strong AI, the interpretation on how a system becomes sentient requires it to work out it's own logic, a system that works for it. It does have governing parameters in it's initial programming but that's no different to having governing parameters in regards to your physical make up for you.
So a Strong AI could quite well define something that would be different from a Weak AI counterpart (which is programmed on the basis of decision matrix's already being pre-considered by the programmer)
As stated previously...
The universe shouldn't be assumed to be a Simulation but an Emulation. Simulations are used to make "false realities" that use "synthetic data". Emulations attempt to encompass absolute duplications, if not integrated fully as a/the "real".