Anyone ever seen a UFO?

Ivan Seeking said:
Okay, so one data point makes a proof. That is called crackpottery. Is this really your best logic?
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Who said ONE data point? I certainly didn't. RADAR picks up weather, period. Weather happens all the time.

Furthermore, are you suggesting that anything on RADAR must be weather?
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Considering it wasn't designed to look at weather, of course not. Be reasonable.

That makes our national missile defense program rather vulnerable. In fact we might launch an attack against a cloud any day now! :D
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At least it might be able to hit a cloud! ROFL !

Have you watched the documentary that I linked or would that be too much bother - to learn a little about this first. Beyond the tedious documentation of events provided by Chop, it can mostly be verified as accruate through the Air Force's Bluebook files.
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Project Bluebook was abandoned, with what conclusion?
 
Ivan Seeking said:
Yes, I already got a little snippy in my last post, but for a good reason. Anyone who knows anything about this subject is fully aware of the limitations of RADAR. That is UFO 101, day 1
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It's not just RADAR though is it? Be reasonable. We have RADAR in many and various locations, CCTV cameras, amateur and professional astronomers, satellites looking down on Earth, Satellites looking up, and digital cameras and video cameras in the hands of a good proportion on the Earth's population, especially recently, with the advent of the camera phone.

But despite the increased prevalence of surveillance afforded to us, ... we still don't get decent pictures or video. We monitor the skies in many wavelengths, up and down, but see ZIP buddy.

I used to work with a bunch of Astronomers, none had recorded a UFO on any of their instruments. Neither had the Earth Observation Dept, neither had the Astronaut I met, or any of my friend's fathers fellow Air Force pilots. I find it odd that the few who claim to have such evidence, are also always hawking books,....
 
phlogistician said:
Project Bluebook was abandoned, with what conclusion?
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The same conclusion that Project Bluebook's scientists had secretely agreed on since the beginning of the project, that was, to dismiss UFO's as terrestrial phenomenon.

It was biased before the official investigation went ahead.
 
Reiku said:
The same conclusion that Project Bluebook's scientists had secretely agreed on since the beginning of the project, that was, to dismiss UFO's as terrestrial phenomenon.

It was biased before the official investigation went ahead.
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If that decision was secret, how are you aware of it?
 
phlogistician said:
If that decision was secret, how are you aware of it?
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you know as well as everyone the guy made leading it was a a debunker so he went into the project looking at it as a joke. they never really investigated anything more than a glance.. the project had absolutly no chance from the get go becasue of the people that were appointed
 
sifreak21 said:
you know as well as everyone the guy made leading it was a a debunker so he went into the project looking at it as a joke. they never really investigated anything more than a glance.. the project had absolutly no chance from the get go becasue of the people that were appointed
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Ah yes, this was the reference I was looking for --- thank you.
 
Been a while since I've posted. Please refrain from using this tread to argue. It's purpose is for people to swap stories, not insults.

Anyone else have story to tell?
 
I've never seen a ufo...but I used to know someone who spoke of many incredible sightings near his home in the southwest.

Several months later I asked him about it again and he had no idea what I was talking about...as if his memory of the subject had been wiped clean.

My favourite speaker on this topic is John Lear. I have no idea if his testimony is the truth...but its one hell of a story!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2Cb_GL3PKs
 
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The thing is, quite a few people see UFOs but the problem is that they attribute the word unidentified to meaning alien.:shrug:
 
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