Any Question about or against ( Islam - Quran - Mohammed ) ?

Wolf_Attack...............????

Well I thought my questions were pretty straight forward and should have been easily answered by now. You did start the post with a quote from the book that I am asking the very simple basic questions about didn't you?

Michael
 
Well I guess that answered that. Any other member want to give it a shot at answering my questions?
 
I guess you could say it was "canonized" by Umar: he had all the other Qurans rounded up and burned or buried, as I recall. What year was that in? Anyone remember?
 
hi everybody,

I'm so so sorry for late I wasn't here but if you want the truth (whispered) 'I forget the thread' :cool: .. Here again with you guys in my favorite forum to discuss more topics about Islam and to response to all who have a big suspicion and doubt about doctrine of Islam and will try hard (God-willing) to unveil all mysteries which surrounded by it ...

In this episode we'll talk about a massive slander it's about misunderstanding the meaning of Jihad ... Ok

...... fighting -- killing -- slaying -- murdering -- destroying -- consuming -- genociding -- massacring -- bloodshed -- violation -- sacrilege -- .......

Of cource these are just a few meanings of Jihad in your mind, I know that, ok, let me show you the truth ...



First of all, I want to clear the definate of "Jihad" or "Al-Jihad", it's an arabic word "جهاد" and source of word coming from "Juhd" or "جهد" which mean "effort - exert - stress - do something over energy - do best - ....",then you can say the noun is "Juhd" or "جهد" mean "effort" and "Jihad" or "جهاد" mean the process of effort or "exert effort" ... that's all in arabic language without any intervention of Islam ...

In Quran and Islam, when they wanted to translate the word "Jihad" to English or Frensh, they didn't found any of other word which identical to it or alternative or like it, that's why they let it 'Jihad', and who want to know the meaning of it must read a full explication and its parts and its rules and its principles to understand it, and they didn't put any other word like: you know, the obove for example ....


Now, what is the meaning of 'Jihad' in Islam ?


'Jihad' is exert oneself effort and do utmost and try hard -to do what God's demanded and keep away of what God's prohibited

see these texts in Quran :
"Ye are the best of Peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah ..."
source : http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=3&nAya=110&t=eng

"Let there arise out of you a band of people inviting to all that is good, enjoining what is right, and forbidding what is wrong: they are the ones to attain felicity"
source : http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=3&nAya=104&t=eng


Now, what are kinds of 'Jihad' ?


before get going in kinds of 'Jihad', I should mention to the first place in Quran which talking about 'Jihad', it's in 'Makka' (the first place which Quran had come down on it) and 'Mohammed' was alone at early of beginning Islam, Allah had said to 'Mohammed' :

"Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness, with the (Qur-an)"
source : http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=25&nAya=52&t=eng

1- Obligatory upon everyone :-

*** Jihad against one’s self :
------- Striving to learn the teachings of Islam or any science branch
"...Allah will raise up, to (suitable) ranks (and degrees), those of you who believe and who have been granted Knowledge. And Allah is well-acquainted with all ye do"
source : http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=58&nAya=11&t=eng

... say, "O my Lord! advance me in knowledge."
source : http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=20&nAya=114&t=eng

------- Striving to make oneself act in accordance with what one has learned
"O ye who believe! Why say ye that which ye do not? - Grievously odious is it in the sight of Allah that ye say that which ye do not"
source : http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=61&nAya=2&t=eng

"Whoever works righteousness, man or woman, and has Faith, verily, to him will We give a new Life, a life that is good and pure, and We will bestow on such their reward according to the best of their actions"
source : http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=16&nAya=97&t=eng

------- Striving to call others to your knowledge, teaching those who do not know about it
"Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance"
source : http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=16&nAya=125&t=eng

"Those who conceal the Clear (Signs) We have sent down, and the Guidance, after we have made it clear for the People in the Book, on them shall be Allah's curse, and the curse of those entitled to curse"
source : http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=2&nAya=159&t=eng

------- Striving to bear patiently the difficulties involved in calling people to Allah and the insults of people; bearing all that for the sake of Allah
"Rejected were the Messengers before thee: with patience and constancy they bore their rejection and their wrongs, until Our aid did reach them ..."
source : http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=6&nAya=34&t=eng

"Not so do those who show patience and constancy, and work righteousness; for them is forgiveness (of sins) and a great reward"
source : http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=11&nAya=11&t=eng

"No reason have we why we should not put our trust on Allah. Indeed He has guided us to the Ways we (follow). We shall certainly bear with patience all the hurt you may cause us. For those who put their trust should put their trust on Allah"
source : http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=14&nAya=12&t=eng


*** Jihad against Satan, Devil (Archenemy) :
------- Warding off the doubts that he stirs up to undermine faith
------- Striving against him to ward off the corrupt desires that he provokes

"Say to My servants that they should (only) say those things that are best: for Satan doth sow dissensions among them: for Satan is to man an avowed enemy"
source : http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=17&nAya=53&t=eng

"Verily Satan is an enemy to you: so treat him as an enemy. He only invites his adherents, that they may become companions of the Blazing Fire"
source : http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=35&nAya=6&t=eng



2- Obligatory upon the community as a whole who accountable :-

*** Jihad against hypocrites, insincere and disobedient :
------- With the heart
------- With tongue

"Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance."
source : http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=16&nAya=125&t=eng


*** Jihad against atheist, disbeliever and polytheist :
------- With the heart
------- With tongue
------- With one’s wealth
------- With oneself

"Those who believe, and suffer exile and strive with might and main, in Allah's cause, with their goods and their persons, have the highest rank in the sight of Allah: they are the people who will achieve (salvation)"
source : http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=9&nAya=20&t=eng

"Allah hath purchased of the Believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the Garden (of Paradise): they fight in His Cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in Truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur-an: and who is more faithful to his Covenant than Allah? Then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme"
source : http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=9&nAya=111&t=eng

You can say this part had mentioned in Quran more than the others, that's because its effectiveness will come back onto the one, family, society, nation and WORLD. Plus Allah had predestined a massive recompense and paradise to people who dead to do what God ordered, and sacrifice with oneself is most worship because there's no priceless and expensive to everyone more than SOUL and SELF ....

Examples about that part will be merged with the purpose of Jihad, and from now on in this message will focus the light of this part and talk more about it ...


What about history and beginning of 'Jihad' ?


"To those against whom war is made, permission is given (to fight), because they are wronged; and verily, Allah is Most Powerful for their aid ..."
source : http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=22&nAya=39&t=eng

By these holy words the first permission was given, the first mention from Allah to muslims to strive to get back what was raped from them : their land their home their respect.

This permission was after emigration from 'Macca' to 'Yathreb' or to 'El-Madenah' immediately, it's after twelve 12 years from the beginning of prophecy ((( And those who slander that 'Mohammed' was a killer and loving for bloodshed since his childhood :: ha 'Jihad' was permitted when he was 52 years old ))) and fightin' against extorted was prohibited before emigration, but generalization of Jihad was after a conquest 'Macca' after eight 8 years from emigration by this verse :

"...and fight the Pagans all together as they fight you all together. But know that Allah is with those who restrain themselves"
source : http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=9&nAya=36&t=eng


OK, can you tell me the purpose of 'Jihad' ?


1- The main goal of jihad is to make the people worship Allah alone and to bring them forth from servitude to people to servitude to the Lord of people

"And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression"
source : http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=2&nAya=193&t=eng

2- Defense about Islam and moslims and get back rights to their owns

"Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors"
source : http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=2&nAya=190&t=eng

"And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith"
source : http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=2&nAya=190&t=eng

"Will ye not fight people who violated their oaths, plotted to expel the Messenger, and took the aggressive by being the first (to assault) you? Do ye fear them? Nay, it is Allah Whom ye should more justly fear, if ye believe!"
source : http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=9&nAya=13&t=eng

3- Reveal all rails and obstacles in front of Islam and invitation to Islam, cause authorities and power which overpower and take control of counties was prevented their public to listen to Quran and Islam.

4- Prevent an islamic countries from any attack from neighbours because of conflicting advantage.

5- Freeing and liberation to all weakness nations from abuse and dictatorships.

"And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)? Men, women, and children, whose cry is: "Our Lord! rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will protect; and raise for us from thee one who will help!"
source : http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=4&nAya=75&t=eng

"Truly Fir'aun elated himself in the land and broke up its people into sections, depressing a small group among them: their sons he slew, but he kept alive their females: for he was indeed a maker of mischief"
source : http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=28&nAya=4&t=eng

6- Unveil the hypocrites.

"Those who believe say, "Why is not a Sura sent down (for us)?" But when a Sura of basic or categorical meaning is revealed, and fighting is mentioned therein, thou wilt see those in whose hearts is a disease looking at thee with a look of one in swoon at the approach of death. But more fitting for them"
source : http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=47&nAya=20&t=eng

"Allah will not leave the Believers in the state in which ye are now, until He separates what is evil from what is good ..."
source : http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=3&nAya=179&t=eng

"Those who believe in Allah and the Last Day ask thee for no exemption from fighting with their goods and persons. And Allah knoweth well those who do their duty, Only those ask thee for exemption who believe not in Allah and the Last Day, and whose hearts are in doubt, so that they are tossed in their doubts to and fro"
source : http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=9&nAya=44&t=eng

7- Ridding the world of corruption and sacrilege.

"(They are) those who have been expelled from their homes in defiance of right, (for no cause) except that they say, "Our Lord is Allah." Did not Allah check one set of people by means of another there would surely have been pulled down monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques, in which the name of Allah is commemorated in abundant measure. Allah will certainly aid those who aid His (cause); for verily Allah is Full of Strength, Exalted in Might, (able to enforce His Will)"
source : http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=22&nAya=40&t=eng

"... And did not Allah check one set of people by means of another, the earth would indeed be full of mischief: but Allah is full of bounty to all the worlds"
source : http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=2&nAya=251&t=eng



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If we talk about manners and principles of 'Jihad', I think we'll find more decisive orders from Allah and his messenger 'Mohammed' talking about that ... 'Mohammed' said ("Don't kill wounded, receding, internee, and if someone close his door and didn't fight then let him in peace") and in another place ("Don't kill any woman, young, old, and don't cut a tree or fire it, and don't destroy houses, and don't kill ewe or else") and 'Mohammed' found a dead woman after a holy conquest and was so angry and said ("Who kill this woman?") and someone said :"That's me" and the prophet said ("Why don't you let her?") and he said : "She intented to kill me" and the prophet said ("You should be a void and obviate her..") ....


I think I talk alot and the above is very very simple sight of 'Jihad' and talking about every thing in 'Jihad' need books not a few lines and messages and need a preacher, I just want to add three points :-

--1-- Did Islam spread by sword ?
I think sword can open a country but can't open a mind, beside the countries which had been conquested by muslims didn't embrase Islam after war immediately, but after a few months away of swords' clank and away of anxious of war

--2-- Why any islamic country going to fight for the orther ?
because If enough of them go out (to fight) for any assistance, the rest are freed from sin, but if none of them do that then all of them are sinners.

--3-- Did you agree with what Muslims' struggles do today ?
'Jihad' had two parts : (I) to motivate and spread Islam in world and of course this part was terminated from a hundred years because now everyone know Islam even if you found a man live in cave in the north or south pole, you'll find him listen at least about Islam - (II) to defense your home without overstep your limitation and without overreach what God said, no destruction to civilic buildings , no foolish killing to everyone away of war, ....


Finally, my heart rend with sorrow from what happened in the world, how many killed?, how many dead?, how many injured?, how many turned from a free man to vagrancy?, how many children had been orphaned?, how many women turned to widows?, how many buildings and mosques had been destructed? ... If you can count ... then ask about 'Jihad' ...


I hope you guys to benefit with what I wrote, and I'll try to answer to the other question sooner, excuse me again, see ya
 
hey "Shaitan", in the last message I just want to exculpate Islam and Mohammed from all slanders about loving bloodshed and consuming, not to debate about a very very big political problem, you know what, I had a hundreds and maybe thousands of sites talking about how savagery is Islam ? and from the other hand you can't catch one site talking about how dictatorships is western ? of course you'll not find, cause we don't need to talk about it cause that's so clear and obvious ... I told you I don't wanna talk about this political thing cause maybe I hate it, I don't know, but I want to add one thing and maybe it's a wisdom .. so if I look bad that dosen't mean my religion is bad .. but the fault is on mine .. and if you don't understand very well that doesn't mean your religion is bad .. so if want to talk about guilty then speak about oneself not speak about religion, now all these contents in this site you had talk about how can muslims defened oneself against colonization and to resist to get back rights to their owns ...

So nice to talk you guys and ready for further subjects ..
see ya ..
 
Does Islam promote or condone female circumcision? I mean, what's the deal? Why are Muslim mothers so intent on doing that? It's one of the degrading human practices in the world...
 
Why is there an intimation of double standard in Ismalic teachings regarding women's rights? Why does it sort of imply that if women are raped then women committed the crime of fornication and deserve capital punishment while if men rape, then it is simply an inherent lust that must be purified daily through prayer and cleansing? Why are women punished and not men? Why does it require that women not be allowed to go anywhere except with a male escort? What's the deal with all these infringements on the women?
 
PLEASE:

Stop derailing the thread. This is not a discussion of Islam. This is a discussion on naming various deities in all the world's religions and cultures from time immemorial to the present.

This is not a theological discussion.

This is a -list-. Most of those participating here are Atheists listing off the attributes of various deities.

whoa, what? But the title says "questions about Islam".... That's not what this thread is about??? Huh?
 
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