Animal rights?
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Originally posted by Xev
Do you think the cute ones should be protected more? I would hate that, lambs are so cute and tasty. I love eating innocent things.
Sheeps definitely need to be protected. Welch farmers would be too sexually deprived if they go extinct.
Protecting people with all these laws and ignoring animals is mere hypocrisy. What the hell makes us different from animals? I don't see a single fucking difference.
Well, of course, we must keep in mind that the human race is far more powerful than other species. So we naturally can dictate whatever the heck we want, which is a little sad but inevitable.
Well, of course, we must keep in mind that the human race is far more powerful than other species. So we naturally can dictate whatever the heck we want, which is a little sad but inevitable.
Gosh.. Feeling sorry for animals is even worse than slave morality.
Bebelina: the fact that I can ask myself the question means that I am self-aware. You said that animals self-aware, so why doesn't the lion ask itself the question? Because he is usually hungry?
Now tell me Bebelina, why does it make you a better person to feel sorry for animals?
Bebelina: the fact that I can ask myself the question means that I am self-aware. You said that animals self-aware, so why doesn't the lion ask itself the question? Because he is usually hungry?
Now tell me Bebelina, why does it make you a better person to feel sorry for animals?
Okey-dokey, Beb. I hate to sound redundant and all (seeing as how I ask you this everytime we talk), but......
Any proof? Do you have any evidence that all animals are self-aware? Or is this more wishy-washy, new-age bullsmack?
And what, to you, is self-awareness?
"Animals are self aware, have feelings and a mental capability that greatly exceeds your pityful existence" - Bebelina
All animals have emotions? What evidence do you have of that? We have crickets in my house (which are fed to my dad's gecko) and I'd like to know exactly how you can prove they experience emotions? It seems to me they're rather emotionless. They spend every minute together then when one of them dies do you know what they do? They eat him. Seems to me most beings with emotions would tend to feel something when their life-long companion dies. And that feeling wouldn't really involve the desire to chomp him up. Furthermore, my crickets have mental capabilities beyond humans? Well, I understand that you (being the close-minded fool you are on some topics) are offended by the fact that ndrs has a different opinion than you, so I assume this was a joke.
Any proof? Do you have any evidence that all animals are self-aware? Or is this more wishy-washy, new-age bullsmack?
And what, to you, is self-awareness?
"Animals are self aware, have feelings and a mental capability that greatly exceeds your pityful existence" - Bebelina
All animals have emotions? What evidence do you have of that? We have crickets in my house (which are fed to my dad's gecko) and I'd like to know exactly how you can prove they experience emotions? It seems to me they're rather emotionless. They spend every minute together then when one of them dies do you know what they do? They eat him. Seems to me most beings with emotions would tend to feel something when their life-long companion dies. And that feeling wouldn't really involve the desire to chomp him up. Furthermore, my crickets have mental capabilities beyond humans? Well, I understand that you (being the close-minded fool you are on some topics) are offended by the fact that ndrs has a different opinion than you, so I assume this was a joke.
The relevant question in animal rights, as Jeremy Bentham pointed out, is not "are they intelligent?", but "can they suffer?" Clearly they can, and do.
Animals need more rights. We need to expand our moral circle as human beings. We have already expanded the tribe to the nation. We now value the rights of women as well as men. We protect the rights of some minorities now, where we didn't before. Animals are next on the list, as soon as people start to develop a greater moral sense.
<b>Xev:</b>
<i>Humans are animals, in which case why shouldn't we do as they do and eat other animals.</i>
Because it causes unnecessary suffering on a huge scale.
<i>Humans are better than other animals, in which case why should we care about them?</i>
You haven't even thought about this, have you? Humans are better than animals ... why, exactly? Humans <b>are</b> animals, Xev.
Animals need more rights. We need to expand our moral circle as human beings. We have already expanded the tribe to the nation. We now value the rights of women as well as men. We protect the rights of some minorities now, where we didn't before. Animals are next on the list, as soon as people start to develop a greater moral sense.
<b>Xev:</b>
<i>Humans are animals, in which case why shouldn't we do as they do and eat other animals.</i>
Because it causes unnecessary suffering on a huge scale.
<i>Humans are better than other animals, in which case why should we care about them?</i>
You haven't even thought about this, have you? Humans are better than animals ... why, exactly? Humans <b>are</b> animals, Xev.