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Remember Joe, you are the one who claimed he could disprove the point I made and supported with evidence. You are yet to do so. I'll give you a hint. For a police officer to be convicted of wrong doing is so rare, that it is extraordinary and requires extraordinary evidence. People have a hard time finding police officers guilty or even indicting them. And on the ridiculously rare occasions when they do, the sentence is non-existent to insultingly small and low.
To put it into some perspective for you. Four police officers shot over 40 bullets at one man. He was unarmed, standing in the entrance of his building. His only crime was being black and holding a wallet in his hands. All four were acquitted. Eric Garner is a prime example of just how and why police officers are not indicted for killing unarmed black men, even on camera. The man was filmed being strangled to death on camera and no indictment for a police officer who has a history and a record of bad police practices against black people. Do you understand the point now?
What happened with Wilson in not even facing a trial is not extraordinary. It is absolutely ordinary. Wilson could have had Brown lying down on the ground when he shot him in the head, and he would have more than likely gotten away with it. There is a precedent for that as well. You only have to look at the killing of Aiyana Jones, a 7 year old girl who was asleep on a couch and was shot in the top of her head, the bullet exited under her chin, by a police officer who stormed the wrong house. The officer who killed her walked away from it, scot-free. Even though he openly lied and falsely tried to blame the child's grandmother for the killing.
The grandmother's fingerprints were nowhere on his gun. He had lied. She was on the other side of the couch when the child was killed.
And he got away with it. But at least it made for good TV.
So what happened with Wilson is nothing new. Nothing extraordinary. And no one expected that he would even get to trial. Brown could have been lying on the ground and Wilson would still have gotten away with it, just as Weekley got away with shooting a sleeping little girl and killing her. So your prancing around here crowing about how Wilson was exonerated is just that, you crowing about the status quo. Here are some more examples of "exoneration", if we are to apply your terminology across the board:
How about the case of Kelly Thomas.. Beaten to death by police. They were "exonerated", even after watching the video of police beating him to death. By around 9 minutes and 40 seconds in the video, he stopped calling for help. By the 11th minute of the video, one police officer asks if he is breathing.. By around 12 minutes and 45 seconds into the video, they start discussing how they saw his arm snap while they were beating him up after they ask him if he can move his arm. Thomas remains unresponsive.. At around 14 minutes into the video, one officer is heard telling his colleagues to make sure they check their equipment for the victim's blood and to make sure they "clean it". 15 minutes into the video, they discuss how they should wipe his face, you know, so it looks better. Because his face had been beaten to a pulp. After 16 minutes, another officer can be heard asking his colleagues if they have their "reps", their representatives, as they try and clean Thomas to try to remove the marks from the beating they gave him. When the paramedics lift him onto a gurney after after 18 minutes into the video, you can see the large puddle of blood left on the ground. That is how much they beat him. Earlier on in the video, one officer can be heard joking about how he had broken up the Thomas' face.
They were "exonerated". You can watch the whole video, from start to end. A warning though. It is harrowing and violent footage, as it always is watching someone be beaten to death.
"Exoneration's" are common in police shootings and beatings.
And I haven't even touched on the "exoneration's" of the men miraculously manage to shoot themselves in the chest or the head while being handcuffed with their hands behind their backs, after being searched twice, in the back of police cars.
As I said Joe, you are simply crowing about the status quo. The outcome for Wilson was preordained and ordinary. No one expected anything differently because to do so would have been to expect the extraordinary.
Remember Joe, you are the one who claimed he could disprove the point I made and supported with evidence. You are yet to do so. I'll give you a hint. For a police officer to be convicted of wrong doing is so rare, that it is extraordinary and requires extraordinary evidence. People have a hard time finding police officers guilty or even indicting them. And on the ridiculously rare occasions when they do, the sentence is non-existent to insultingly small and low.
To put it into some perspective for you. Four police officers shot over 40 bullets at one man. He was unarmed, standing in the entrance of his building. His only crime was being black and holding a wallet in his hands. All four were acquitted. Eric Garner is a prime example of just how and why police officers are not indicted for killing unarmed black men, even on camera. The man was filmed being strangled to death on camera and no indictment for a police officer who has a history and a record of bad police practices against black people. Do you understand the point now?
What happened with Wilson in not even facing a trial is not extraordinary. It is absolutely ordinary. Wilson could have had Brown lying down on the ground when he shot him in the head, and he would have more than likely gotten away with it. There is a precedent for that as well. You only have to look at the killing of Aiyana Jones, a 7 year old girl who was asleep on a couch and was shot in the top of her head, the bullet exited under her chin, by a police officer who stormed the wrong house. The officer who killed her walked away from it, scot-free. Even though he openly lied and falsely tried to blame the child's grandmother for the killing.
Seconds after entering the house, where the grenade had caused Aiyana’s blanket to catch fire, Weekley fired one fatal shot. It went straight through the child’s head. Weekley said it was an accident and accused Jones of wrestling with his gun immediately as he entered the abode, causing the fatal shot.
Jones was arrested, and though she was quickly released it was not before she and two other family members – Aiyana’s parents – had been forced to sit in their child’s blood for hours, Scott said.
Jones was arrested, and though she was quickly released it was not before she and two other family members – Aiyana’s parents – had been forced to sit in their child’s blood for hours, Scott said.
The grandmother's fingerprints were nowhere on his gun. He had lied. She was on the other side of the couch when the child was killed.
And he got away with it. But at least it made for good TV.
So what happened with Wilson is nothing new. Nothing extraordinary. And no one expected that he would even get to trial. Brown could have been lying on the ground and Wilson would still have gotten away with it, just as Weekley got away with shooting a sleeping little girl and killing her. So your prancing around here crowing about how Wilson was exonerated is just that, you crowing about the status quo. Here are some more examples of "exoneration", if we are to apply your terminology across the board:
Chicago Police Officer Gildardo Sierra will not face any criminal charges for the killing of an unarmed man, Cook County prosecutors announced Tuesday, despite video footage that showed Sierra standing over the victim, Flint Farmer, and shooting him multiple times. Prosecutors concluded that Sierra may have reasonably mistaken Farmer’s cell phone for a gun, and therefore was justified in firing off all 16 rounds in his gun at the unarmed man.
Farmer was Sierra’s third shooting in six months, yet the officer remained on the job. The video showed Farmer lying on the ground bleeding as Sierra shot three bullets into his back. An autopsy later determined those three shots in his back were the fatal wounds.
Sierra eventually admitted that he drank “multiple” beers before he went to work that night. However, the city waited more than five hours after the shooting to give him a breath test, so there was no way to tell if he was impaired during the shooting.
The CPD also ruled Farmer’s shooting justified, though Superintendent Garry McCarthy later told the Chicago Tribune that Sierra should not have been allowed back on the street after the two previous shootings. McCarthy said the department had no way of tracking officers’ shooting records.
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Farmer was Sierra’s third shooting in six months, yet the officer remained on the job. The video showed Farmer lying on the ground bleeding as Sierra shot three bullets into his back. An autopsy later determined those three shots in his back were the fatal wounds.
Sierra eventually admitted that he drank “multiple” beers before he went to work that night. However, the city waited more than five hours after the shooting to give him a breath test, so there was no way to tell if he was impaired during the shooting.
The CPD also ruled Farmer’s shooting justified, though Superintendent Garry McCarthy later told the Chicago Tribune that Sierra should not have been allowed back on the street after the two previous shootings. McCarthy said the department had no way of tracking officers’ shooting records.
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How about the case of Kelly Thomas.. Beaten to death by police. They were "exonerated", even after watching the video of police beating him to death. By around 9 minutes and 40 seconds in the video, he stopped calling for help. By the 11th minute of the video, one police officer asks if he is breathing.. By around 12 minutes and 45 seconds into the video, they start discussing how they saw his arm snap while they were beating him up after they ask him if he can move his arm. Thomas remains unresponsive.. At around 14 minutes into the video, one officer is heard telling his colleagues to make sure they check their equipment for the victim's blood and to make sure they "clean it". 15 minutes into the video, they discuss how they should wipe his face, you know, so it looks better. Because his face had been beaten to a pulp. After 16 minutes, another officer can be heard asking his colleagues if they have their "reps", their representatives, as they try and clean Thomas to try to remove the marks from the beating they gave him. When the paramedics lift him onto a gurney after after 18 minutes into the video, you can see the large puddle of blood left on the ground. That is how much they beat him. Earlier on in the video, one officer can be heard joking about how he had broken up the Thomas' face.
In July 2011, the Fullerton cops came upon the 37-year-old schizophrenic taking some letters out of a trashcan and started beating him with a taser and a baton. The entire encounter was caught on a nearby security camera. The recording shows Ramos putting on a pair of latex gloves and telling Thomas, “See these fists? They’re getting ready to fuck you up.” As the officers hit him, Thomas begged for help and called out for his father. Cicinelli arrived later, tasing Thomas with a stun gun and then struck him across the face with it hard enough to break several bones. “I just probably smashed his face to hell,” he says on the video. Thomas went unconscious and died five days later. Ramos and Cicinelli were fired about a year after the assault.
They were "exonerated". You can watch the whole video, from start to end. A warning though. It is harrowing and violent footage, as it always is watching someone be beaten to death.
"Exoneration's" are common in police shootings and beatings.
While stories of police brutality are all too common, accused officers rarely face a courtroom, let alone prison time. Even video footage isn’t a guarantee the offender will face consequences; in one case from November, a Chicago cop was caught on tape standing over an unarmed man and shooting at him 16 times, but was never charged with a crime. In another creative twist, New York City prosecutors recentlycharged an unarmed mentally ill man with assault because police shot several bystanders while aiming for him.
And I haven't even touched on the "exoneration's" of the men miraculously manage to shoot themselves in the chest or the head while being handcuffed with their hands behind their backs, after being searched twice, in the back of police cars.
As I said Joe, you are simply crowing about the status quo. The outcome for Wilson was preordained and ordinary. No one expected anything differently because to do so would have been to expect the extraordinary.