Am i going MAD???

[GodlessEvil]

look....when you look t creativity, you see its fruits always involve the mixing of cultures.....get me?.....al this English for the anglais, Frecnh for the french is impossible. they we etc etc re already mixed anyhow. it is very racist that idea. it is like Germany for te 'pure' fukin geeeermans. and look whathappened....?

Yeah and look what happens at the extreme opposite with multiculturalism,
Birmingham is a good example where blacks are fighting asians to the point of a small war over some stupid rape rumour. White people were not involved because white people are a MINORITY there.

Or terrorists where muslim extremists blow up a bus.
One of those terrorist who done the bus over here is now getting a "martyr" burial in a mosque, like he is some big muslim fucking hero or something.

And creativity?
NO it's the THEFT of other cultures, there is nothing creative about it, you're just stealing something of someone else and soaking it up.

Why is it that an area becomes mostly black/asian and the whites move out?

Why is that? unless it is of natural order to go where other people of your race exist. Where other people speak english as their first language, that always helps.

It might sound like a racist idea, but it is not racist, it has it's own word "Nationalist", because it has no superior or hate beliefs.

Racism is all about hate and superiority.

Nationalism is different, it accepts 100% that all races and cultures are different, and that people naturally prefer their own ethnic group for company because of shared history, language and identity.

When people come to this country they wish do keep their own culture, we built mosques for example to allow them to do that, and teach the quran at schools and other bullshit.
They wish to continue socialising mostly with their own and speaking their own language.

Well i'm sorry, but you're in britain now, and we want to keep OUR culture too, you can't have your own, if you like your culture so much go home back to where it comes from.

Sorry but enough is enough now.

 

[EmptyForceOfChi]

your not insane man just worrying deep in your mind about probable posabilities, with all the premanitions and nucular threats of this centuary no wonder people think the world will end soon.

 

[tablariddim]

oh fa fags seik wasup wit oll te spelink mistakes onn tis furom: id''s draivink mi inn sain<

 

[tablariddim]

I think all white nationalists should move to a ghetto in Delhi and force those native fuckers out of there just so they know how it feels!

 

[tablariddim]

I wish I had some of that shit my avatar is fuckin' smokin'.

 

[GodlessEvil]

I think all white nationalists should move to a ghetto in Delhi and force those native fuckers out of there just so they know how it feels!

Er??, no you're alright, i think they have enough problems already.

 

[duendy]

Godless Evil...babe...you are con-fuuuused. seriously. you are not bein honest wid yerself. you are pretendin your 'nationalism' isn't 'racism'......you are doing Orwellian schpeak. you now callin someting one thing when it really is something else

abot cultural mixing. as bad as the black and white people ttroubles, there has been a real rich musical etc fruitful mix. of COURSE there has. even if yo just think of Elvis Presly....ow many stiff whitemn's hips did HE help to liberate--himself bing influenced by Black Culture...???

i know what you mean about leeching though. this is where a culture APPROPRIATES anoters mking out teir art is theres.......This was dont by Israelies appropriating Palestianian art----or so a Palestinian friend inormed me

so its not so eayas you make out. like all life it is complex. but you are living in nver never land mate. what you use alo your energy to want to happen can and will nver ever ever happen. it is anti natural. accept it......?

 

[taylan007]

(To GODLESSEVIL, take your time reading this and before you decide im chatting shit about it try to see this with an open/clear mind with out the polutants from other sources in your mind)

So im guessing the nationalist if they get in to power, they would bring back home all their people from south africa, australia, america, gibiralta ect, ect, ect.

If i was to be honest with you godless i would confess living in a society with just one culture one type of people would possibly eliminate a lot of problems and it seems to me this is the dream that a lot of young nationalists buy into because its such an honest and honarable dream, and if i had to be honest with you i would say yeah i would love a place which everyone had same beliefs and culture it would make things so much easier for everyone.

But the reality of the matter is this is just a dream. This kind of thing has to either exist from the begining and be kept clean with the strictest manner (meaning double standards, you dont step on my land i dont step on yours) and ONLY in this form can it be kept purely for the good of the people.

The moment borders are crossed its too late. To try to go back to the old ways would cause too much problems worse than the original. I know you dont consider your selves as nazis but to solve this problem the only way i can see what your proposing to happen would be the way hitler done it, ONCE YOU LOOSE YOUR HUMANITY CAN WHATEVER YOUR DOING BE WORTH IT. If you do believe in god the answer to this should be NO, otherwise from your own point of views you're evil yourself.

What you gotta understand is people arent aint against you,everyone is just trying to survive, everyone has 1001 problems, and blaming others for aint solving them.

You say people come to this country and try to enforce their culture on you, they are not and saying otherwise is paranoia, you see with the first generation coming here their culture is all they've know for all their lives and the argument , "This country wont change for you" is revesed because of natural feelings to "i wont change for this country" because change is scary for people after a certain age.

The second generation know they cannot live like this as the culture they have been brought up in does not consider everything that this culture offers them so what i find is this generation has aspects of both the first generation and the society they find them selves in but i consider this generation to british.

The biggest problem for this generation is they are stuck between two cultures as when they go back to their country they are seen as foreners as they dont fully know their own culture because of the changes theyve made in themselves to fit in with English culture , if in England they are not accepted because they look different, then isnt it obvious they will form a culture they can fit in to, which it seems to me your mistaking for them trying to pervert your own culture. The way this generation lives is a mixture of both ie, what they believe they need to survive in both cultures.

What the government sould be doing is not change the diffences of people to they are all the same, but working on the similarities so people can see that they are the same.

At the end of the day whatever the cultures DONT WE ALL WANT TO LIVE IN PEACE???

Please let me know your views on what ive said here GODLESS, cause i know you want to do good but i belive the way nationalists try to solve the problem breeds hate which opens the path to evil.

Im open for discussion on any of my view as this is the only way Ill learn, so dont be shy in any way to criticise me.

 

[GodlessEvil]

Yes i spoke to some pakistani muslims who were born here, and they have a problem with being considered forieghn here and forieghn back home, but this is where some young people like that join up with islamic extremism.
Essentially many countrys are nationalist, i mean if you can't go back home without being considered a forieghner then your homeland is basically nationalist.
Otherwise shouldnt it welcome you back with open arms.

Now this is certainly the governments fault aswell, when they watch what we do in Iraq, i mean look at it now they are worse off now than under the dictator, now i'm not being funny but that must be pretty damn bad!
I mean imagine you see a nice girl in a bar and your tactics for chatting her up is holding a gun to her head and "go out with me or die" then at the table for dinner: order in some air strikes.
"whoa i'm in there"
That is pretty much how Americans treat Iraq.
The American government, they are the REAL fucking NAZI's.

But i'll admit Nationalism has its roots in racism, the best metaphor would be that racism is the dirt, and nationalism is the flowers that grow out of the dirt.
Essentially nationalism tries to throw away the racism in favour of a more diplomatic aproach.

It is not all a one way street, try to accept the possibility that nationalism can work WITHIN REASON so long as it is not abused by racists.
It does not have to be 100% strict in the extreme, it just has to be the basis of the government rather than the rule.
Ok so we stop immigration, right, well we need to now work on the enviroment, get rid of capitalism, pull our soldiers out of countrys they do not belong.
NO MORE offshoring, offshoring jobs to other countrys will be an economical disaster, just think about this:
Ford's right: say you have a worker in Britain who earns £30,000 a year, he loses his job because China has a worker who will do the same job for £2000 a year.

Now the british guy because skilled work is going elsewhere just finds a cleaning job for which he gets £15,000 a year, this means that the cash he recycles in the economy in this country is £15,000 SHORT, you think that normally he would have 30,000 but he is 15,000 down and that is not going back into our system paying taxes, buying goods etc.

We cannot keep losing our skilled labour to india and china, my uncle works for Fords over here and it is a fucking mess, Ford's is finnished in Britain, Henry must be turning in his grave.

And then when these countrys are as advanced as us, where does that fucking leave us, KNOWHERE thats what, 3rd world Britain. The minoritys might leave then, thats one way to solve it, but that is not the way we want it.

Way i see it, other countrys have to learn to build their civilisation on their own, even if it takes 100...no 1000 years, if they was meant to have it why have they not got it yet?

For instance if black people were never brought over as slaves, if we never interfered with them WHATSOEVER, would they not still be tribal or have their own ways common with their true homeland.

Our intervention swapped their spears for AK47's, for a tribal culture who is NOT READY.

I think we advanced too quickly also, i think we developed things we should have left alone or not discovered for several hundred years, and now we are passing these "things" onto country/race/cultures who are also not ready.

 

[URI]

To be insane in a sane world, means you are insane.

To be insane in an insane world means you are sane.

First determine if the world is sane or insane...

then you may understand yourself.

If you are insane then stop worrying,........

If the world is insane.... well go find a group of sane people, and start worrying.

But you are totally correct... not long left because we are short of rights.... the end of the world is nigh

PS, if you find that group of sane people, please let me know.

 

[taylan007]

Yes i spoke to some pakistani muslims who were born here, and they have a problem with being considered forieghn here and forieghn back home, but this is where some young people like that join up with islamic extremism.
Essentially many countrys are nationalist, i mean if you can't go back home without being considered a forieghner then your homeland is basically nationalist.
Otherwise shouldnt it welcome you back with open arms.

Read what im writing carefuly, im not saying the country doesnt accept us, the same way you see foriegners different, the fact that they've got a different culture from yours, the home land of someone sees them different because they've got a different culture from them, the combination of two cultures. This is just natural, its when this difference is seen to be bad is when problems begin.

Now this is certainly the governments fault aswell, when they watch what we do in Iraq, i mean look at it now they are worse off now than under the dictator, now i'm not being funny but that must be pretty damn bad!
I mean imagine you see a nice girl in a bar and your tactics for chatting her up is holding a gun to her head and "go out with me or die" then at the table for dinner: order in some air strikes.
"whoa i'm in there"
That is pretty much how Americans treat Iraq.
The American government, they are the REAL fucking NAZI's.

Thats an even longer matter to go into so for now all ill say to you on that is its just business.

But i'll admit Nationalism has its roots in racism, the best metaphor would be that racism is the dirt, and nationalism is the flowers that grow out of the dirt.
Essentially nationalism tries to throw away the racism in favour of a more diplomatic aproach.

Changing someones name doesnt make that person any different, at the end of the day drawring flowers on to a sword doesnt mean it wont cut as sharp.

It is not all a one way street, try to accept the possibility that nationalism can work WITHIN REASON so long as it is not abused by racists.

like you said the roots are there, its just a matter of time before it grows.

NO MORE offshoring, offshoring jobs to other countrys will be an economical disaster, just think about this:
Ford's right: say you have a worker in Britain who earns £30,000 a year, he loses his job because China has a worker who will do the same job for £2000 a year.

Now the british guy because skilled work is going elsewhere just finds a cleaning job for which he gets £15,000 a year, this means that the cash he recycles in the economy in this country is £15,000 SHORT, you think that normally he would have 30,000 but he is 15,000 down and that is not going back into our system paying taxes, buying goods etc.

We cannot keep losing our skilled labour to india and china, my uncle works for Fords over here and it is a fucking mess, Ford's is finnished in Britain, Henry must be turning in his grave.

You think its just the british that suffer from this offshoring?????

We're here in this country with you anything that effects you effects us just the same if not worse.

And then when these countrys are as advanced as us, where does that fucking leave us, KNOWHERE thats what, 3rd world Britain. The minoritys might leave then, thats one way to solve it, but that is not the way we want it.

Leave to where this is where our lives are, its like leaving your mother to go grow up with your grandmother OK theres a link there but it the mother that whent through that pain for you and soon as you see better life somewhere else you go there, this is a choice down to individuals doesnt matter where your from. We're all in the same boat here cant you see that???

If this country prospers we all prosper, but the problem is not the colour/race of the people. The problem is the people at the top. I really doupt its a paki/black/indi ect ect who is sending these jobs offshore, If those british at the top are more concerned about profits than their people, what right have you got for blaming other countries for accepting these jobs!?!?!?! Open your eyes and see where the true problem is!!!!!!

Way i see it, other countrys have to learn to build their civilisation on their own, even if it takes 100...no 1000 years, if they was meant to have it why have they not got it yet?

For instance if black people were never brought over as slaves, if we never interfered with them WHATSOEVER, would they not still be tribal or have their own ways common with their true homeland.

Our intervention swapped their spears for AK47's, for a tribal culture who is NOT READY.

I think we advanced too quickly also, i think we developed things we should have left alone or not discovered for several hundred years, and now we are passing these "things" onto country/race/cultures who are also not ready.

Where did you get all this bullshit from????

From this logic, then if it wernt for the chinese or egyptians (cant remember which) then the british would still be writing on stone.

If it wasnt for the chineese showing the west gunpowder then the west would still be fighting with bow and arrows.

By the way it was the russians who made the AK.47 you would still be shooting rifles if it wasnt for them.

Im getting stupid now but do you see that argument has no relevence, its just bullshit fed to the young influence thier thinking.

Let go of this fucked up way of thinking all cultures have helped each other develope. This is the way we should be!!!

As long as were fighting each other over which colour we like best, were missing all the beutiful things that can be created using these colours.

Try to think with a clear mind without the influences of hate in your head, its only a matter of time before these kind of thoughts grow and consume you.

Please come back to me with your own thoughts, not bullshit fed to you by others.

 

[GodlessEvil]

Personal choice and freedom of speech do not exist anymore, i'm surprised i have not been banned from this website, because what i say might be against what someone else believes i should say.

Fact is i never said i hated other races, you made that up in your own head from what i said by reading between the lines.

I would rather assasinate everyone in parliment than start executing or even bullying other races, so i'm fully aware politicians running the show today are the problem.

I joined an alternative party to the main three, you get involved you speak to people, there is other members of the group who you becomes friends with and have a drink with, and essentially we debate things no different to what we are doing now.

Even if i was to change my mind about the party, it is hard to just drop it like it never happened.

It's easy for you, you just sit at a keyboard typing shit to all sorts of people you have not met and do not know.
I, on the other hand debate and speak with other members, understand that if i was going to drop these friends and the party it will be on my own terms, not "because of some dude on the internet in another country told me so"

 

[tablariddim]

You do well to debate this subject with others who are into a different head space from you and your friends, at least you may get some food for thought from different perspectives and you may notice that very few IF ANY of the posters here actually agree with your ideology and that MUST say something to you. If you have ears, listen, if you have a mind, think!

 

[taylan007]

Personal choice and freedom of speech do not exist anymore, i'm surprised i have not been banned from this website, because what i say might be against what someone else believes i should say.

Fact is i never said i hated other races, you made that up in your own head from what i said by reading between the lines.

I dont remember saying that you hated others, i might be wrong on this but what i should have told you that i think hate can grow out of the types of views your putting accross to me, and i could be wrong again but some of the things your saying are the exact thing ive heard from skin heads and as far as i know they do hate other races. You see im not woried about you thinking about what other people tell, im worried that you think that what these people tell you is all there is.

I would rather assasinate everyone in parliment than start executing or even bullying other races, so i'm fully aware politicians running the show today are the problem.

I joined an alternative party to the main three, you get involved you speak to people, there is other members of the group who you becomes friends with and have a drink with, and essentially we debate things no different to what we are doing now.

Even if i was to change my mind about the party, it is hard to just drop it like it never happened.

It's easy for you, you just sit at a keyboard typing shit to all sorts of people you have not met and do not know.
I, on the other hand debate and speak with other members, understand that if i was going to drop these friends and the party it will be on my own terms, not "because of some dude on the internet in another country told me so"

You seem to have misunderstood me somewhere along the way Im not telling you to do anything. I am just telling you my opinions on your opinions. Thats all this is, its your choice what you want to think of it. The only thing i would tell you to do dont let other people influence your way of thinking.

How do you think terrorist get young people to blow them selves up. When your young your vunrable to be draged along with other peoples ideas thinking this is the only answer. One advice i would give you for life there is always more than 1 answer to a question. Dont just go for the easiest and say it is THE ANSWER.

The reason im on this site is because what ever i may post there will always be someone to challenge and in doing so i learn what they know, it opens my eyes to other answers to questions ive answerd years ago but from a different view alowing me to explore other possibilities.

Why do you think im always telling you to open your eyes. Look at whats around you and come to your own conclusions, find your own answers. Every one sees everthing differently, i would rather see you looking through your own eyes and being racist to me, than looking through someone elses eyes and not.

Just because some one buys you a drink, food, car, house it doesnt autamaticly make them a nice person. If some one gives you something 99.99% of the time they will want something back.

At the end of the day your thoughts are your own all i say is dont let others cloud your mind.

By the way im not in another country.