So you have to guess at a mechnism to make it work? You don't know of one?
All matter photons?
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So you have to guess at a mechnism to make it work? You don't know of one?
Then this debate is over and the first Sciforums Contest thread is a witch hunt.
An electron shell may have the required spacetime curvature to harvest a nicely bound-state for a photon.
I SAID THIS DEBATE IS OVER!
Quit kicking the dead dog.
E=mc².. Didn't some smart guy say that?
Unless we just like to argue (which we do).
Quit kicking the dead dog.
E=mc².. Didn't some smart guy say that?
Unless we just like to argue (which we do).
Where have you been. I've guessed the exact mechanism since way back in 1986. I'm just not smart enough to make a theory out of it.BenTheMan said:
E=mc^2 is not true for photons.
Ben, please don't get me started- you'll just embarass yourself. I promise.
Pigeon hole this for me and then I'll pigeon whole all of QED for you.
But what is embarrasing is I'm an uneducated idiot and you are a 15th year college idiot.
Wha
Pigeon hole this for me and then I'll pigeon whole all of QED for you.
But what is embarrasing is I'm an uneducated idiot and you are a 15th year college idiot.
Wha
Says you who makes similar mistakes. You forgot the momentum contribution in all your posts too. You always do.
From the basic QM I've learned:
Photons are bosons, while matter is mostly comprised of fermions (I understand Pauli exclusion plays an important role for the structure of matter, while there's no limit to the number of photons you can pack into any given volume). How could bound spin-one photons account for the half-integer spins and other properties of fermions?
Photons are bosons, while matter is mostly comprised of fermions (I understand Pauli exclusion plays an important role for the structure of matter, while there's no limit to the number of photons you can pack into any given volume). How could bound spin-one photons account for the half-integer spins and other properties of fermions?
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Ok Ben here you go.
The foundations of your little religion is based on the concept of quantum. The most simple of which is the photon.
Like me, you really don't know what a photon is. You have no idea what it is doing when not observed. You just guesstimate (accurately- but NOT exactly) with your various probabilistic mathematical masturbations. - (I plagiarized that from someone)
Is a photon a particle or a wave? You don't know.
Is an atom a particle or a wave? You don't know.
Is a freakin buckyball a particle or a wave? You don't know.
(BTW- buckyballs, HUGE molecules, have been shown to interfere in the two slit experiment)
So what do we do when we don't understand something?
Sweep it under the rug and build a science to avoid the point. Make up new theories to explain all the errors you don't want to release from the current theories.
How can you base 70 years of science on a photon and still not know what really is happening in one of the pioneer experiments, the two slit.
What causes decoherence Ben?
You don't know. No one knows.
You've disguised statitics as physics and followed the naked emperors all the way into the 11th dimension. Moron. You are one of the sheep.
There are no particles. Only waves.
BTW: "Expert", you do not understand your own subject matter. You may borrow my line if you want...Shut up and Calculate
The foundations of your little religion is based on the concept of quantum. The most simple of which is the photon.
Like me, you really don't know what a photon is. You have no idea what it is doing when not observed. You just guesstimate (accurately- but NOT exactly) with your various probabilistic mathematical masturbations. - (I plagiarized that from someone)
Is a photon a particle or a wave? You don't know.
Is an atom a particle or a wave? You don't know.
Is a freakin buckyball a particle or a wave? You don't know.
(BTW- buckyballs, HUGE molecules, have been shown to interfere in the two slit experiment)
So what do we do when we don't understand something?
Sweep it under the rug and build a science to avoid the point. Make up new theories to explain all the errors you don't want to release from the current theories.
How can you base 70 years of science on a photon and still not know what really is happening in one of the pioneer experiments, the two slit.
What causes decoherence Ben?
You don't know. No one knows.
You've disguised statitics as physics and followed the naked emperors all the way into the 11th dimension. Moron. You are one of the sheep.
There are no particles. Only waves.
BTW: "Expert", you do not understand your own subject matter. You may borrow my line if you want...Shut up and Calculate
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You whiney fool. How is that a mistake? I was talking the other day about formulaes that are used to validate that the photon has mass, and showing they where wrong. I had no need in those cases to use this specific equation.
Ben might not "know", but I can give you an "answer" to all that:Mike Honcho said:
A photon is a particle, so is an atom. A photon is a wave, so is an atom.
A buckyball is also a particle and a wave.
Also, a photon, an atom, and a molecule called a "buckyball", is a wave-particle; and all of them are also neither waves, nor particles, nor are they wave-particles, but something else - a non-wave, non-particle, non-wave-particle thingamy. Four things all at once.
Simple really. See?
Ben might not "know", but I can give you an "answer" to all that:
A photon is a particle, so is an atom. A photon is a wave, so is an atom.
A buckyball is also a particle and a wave.
Also, a photon, an atom, and a molecule called a "buckyball", is a wave-particle; and all of them are also neither waves, nor particles, nor are they wave-particles, but something else - a non-wave, non-particle, non-wave-particle thingamy. Four things all at once.
Simple really. See?
Duh!
Now I get it.
September. Because icecream has no bones.
lol :xctd:
Or maybe photons, atoms and molecules all work for the cia on planet higgs in the 11th dimension. There they are allied with Anti-Bin-Laden in protecting the honor of electrons by hiding thier nakedness and clothing them in reality when the 4D infidels attepmt to look.
Hey Ben. Where's my freakin shovel.
Also, Ben dumps everything here when he can't/won't accept/explain it.