Ain't Nobody's Business If You Do

StrangerInAStrangeLand

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Everyone interested in ethics, morality & justice should read this book. More so if they want to express an opinion on the issues discussed in the book.
It was published in the usual way but is available free online from the author.

http://www.mcwilliams.com/books/aint/f01.htm

Ain't Nobody's Business If You Do

McWilliams marshals a vast army of anecdotes, quotes, statistics and assertions to argue that America would be a lot better off if we stopped using the force of law to save each other from drugs, alcohol, gambling, pornography, suicide and sex in its more exotic flavors.
- New York Times

Peter McWilliams has come up with a "reinvention" of government that would bring us closer to the ideals of the Founding Fathers, increase our personal liberties and save an impressive amount of money in the process.
—USA TODAY

There's a huge difference between crime and sin - and the government has no business making the former out of the latter. At least, not in America.
—New York Newsday

It might inspire a song if I can match your mix of humor and seriousness. Brilliant!
—Sting

The forces arrayed against McWilliams are many and powerful, from the legions of the religious right to the political establishment. McWilliams' book brims with facts delivered with a gentle sense of humor and spiced with pithy quotations from sources as diverse as Thomas Jefferson and Joni Mitchell.
—Cleveland Plain Dealer

Here is a controversial book that contains so much logical thought, it is destined to be roundly ignored by policy makers.
—Gannett News Service

Just as bootleggers were forced out of business in 1933 when Prohibition was repealed, making the sale of liquor legal (thus eliminating racketeering), the legalization of drugs would put drug dealers out of business. It would also guarantee government-approved quality, and the tax on drugs would provide an ongoing source of revenue for drug-education programs. An added plus: there would be far less crowding in our prisons due to drug-related crimes. It's something to consider.
—Abigail Van Buren

Recently there crossed my desk (delicate way of saying "free") a book sufficiently intriguing that, breaking the habits of a lifetime, I bought another copy. The book is Ain't Nobody's Business If You Do by Peter McWilliams.
—Newhouse News Service

Don't miss the point: In our "free country" over 750,000 people are now in jail for consensual crimes. You should also know that another 2 million are now on parole or probation; over 4 million more will be arrested this year; we will spend $50 billion this year punishing people who have been convicted of consensual crimes; and we will lose $150 billion this year in tax revenue. It's your money. You're paying for it.
—Phil Donahue

If you want to stop this madness, you may want to begin by reading Peter McWilliams' book. A highly readable and entertaining work, "Ain't Nobody's Business If You Do."
—Hugh Downs

Why don't we reconsider the criminalization of consensual activities by adults? Why is the option considered so far beyond the pale that hundreds of timid elected officials who know all this and privately agree are convinced that to question consensual crimes is political suicide?
—Orange County Register

Using his trademark clear logic and simple language, McWilliams points out that freeing the police, courts and prisons from prosecuting consensual criminals will make available whole armies of fighters against consumer fraud, terrorism, murder and rape.
—Dayton Ohio News

What's the difference between a crime that hurts a fellow citizen and a crime that only hurts the fool who commits it? All the difference in the world, according to Peter McWilliams.
—Rocky Mountain News

In witty, well-researched pages, McWilliams gives a series of compelling arguments to back up his contention that it's morally wrong to prosecute people for victimless crimes against morality.
—Detroit News

One more reason to buy this book is for the boxed quotes on almost every page. One of the greatest collections of funny, hilarious, unusual and trenchant remarks ever.
—Liz Smith

So you have your rapist, your strong-arm robber, your mugger being released early to make room for somebody who took money for sex or smoked dope in what he thought was private, but turned out to be not quite. That doesn't look like much of a trade from here. However much you're repelled by, say, prostitution, wouldn't you rather meet a hooker than a mugger coming down an alley?
—Reno Gazette–Journal

McWilliams is a New York Times best-selling author. Since 1967, he has published more than 30 books. He is a man well acquainted with controversy and shows no fear in rushing in where angels fear to tread. Well-written and fabulously interesting.
—Tulsa World

McWilliams makes a strong argument for the elimination of such crimes, providing a history of consensual crimes and their absurdity. The blend of first-person observation, research, and argument makes for a fine and revealing title.
—Bookwatch

I don't expect anyone to agree with all of McWilliams' assertions. Even he admits that. But there is one point you should not overlook. What starts with control of narcotics and sexual activity can spread wherever a majority (or powerful minority), often powered by religious zeal, decide it knows what's best for you.
—Philadelphia News Gleaner

How truly revolutionary, libertarian, frightening and funny this book is. Grand in scope and scale. The book is interesting and meticulously researched.
—Little Rock Free Press

Peter McWilliams has written a book for our times—the quintessential book on the subject of consensual crimes. With public sympathy geared toward harsher sentences for those who commit felonies, McWilliams demonstrates the absurdity of prosecuting those guilty of "victimless" crimes.
—Newport News Press

Imposing criminal sanctions on human conduct which is wholly consensual and does not harm another person or his or her property is a misplaced and counterproductive act . . . we violate the premise upon which America was founded.
—New Orleans Times—Picayune


Ain't Nobody's Business If You Do was nominated for the H. L. Mencken Award.
 
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It's an enjoyable read, and I've referenced it many times on this forum. Those who most need to read aren't going to though.
 
What happens in some cases is that one person gets out of control with their"sexual desires" and can easily hurt or even kill their partner. I've seen cases where people have iron fire place pokers rammed up their asses or a baseball bat shoved into a vagina or countless other types of things with bondages that choked a woman to death. You think that should be left alone?
 
What happens in some cases is that one person gets out of control with their"sexual desires" and can easily hurt or even kill their partner. I've seen cases where people have iron fire place pokers rammed up their asses or a baseball bat shoved into a vagina or countless other types of things with bondages that choked a woman to death. You think that should be left alone?

Perhaps we should just tell them that doing those kinds of things ain't very nice ....then let go on about their lives with those words of wisdom? :D

Baron Max
 
But where do you draw the line? When you hear someone screaming for help and they are "just enjoying sex" then what do you do as a neighbor? How long should you "ignore" someones pleas for help when they say the enjoy being tortured and put into bondage? I really don't think that anyone should have the right to cause pain and suffering to another whether or not they say they enjoy it because as I have said you never know when someone will go to far and really hurt their partner.
 
What happens in some cases is that one person gets out of control with their"sexual desires" and can easily hurt or even kill their partner. I've seen cases where people have iron fire place pokers rammed up their asses or a baseball bat shoved into a vagina or countless other types of things with bondages that choked a woman to death. You think that should be left alone?

Actually yes and no. It should be ignored untill it reaches the point where someone is maimed or dies. Like anything it is how careful you are in it's application. If the person is not killed or maimed in a permanent way then it is none of societies concern.
 
But where do you draw the line? When you hear someone screaming for help and they are "just enjoying sex" then what do you do as a neighbor? How long should you "ignore" someones pleas for help when they say the enjoy being tortured and put into bondage? I really don't think that anyone should have the right to cause pain and suffering to another whether or not they say they enjoy it because as I have said you never know when someone will go to far and really hurt their partner.

Careful, you are on a slieppery slope here. Anytime you draw a line you are asking people who might like to safely cross it to become criminals. It should not be societies issue untill one party is dead or permanently maimed. Yes we can try to educate them before hend, but that is it unlees you are going to hire one person to observe and monitor each couples sex life.
 
But where do you draw the line?

If you need to, you ask the person you are wondering about if they need help. If they say "yes," then you know there is a problem. If they say "no," then leave them alone.
 
When you hear someone screaming for help and they are "just enjoying sex" then what do you do as a neighbor?

Well.....Men would probably get turned on and wonder why there wasn't so much fun going on in their own bedroom. Women would probably get pissed off.
Next time you are outside, say...."What movie were you watching last night with all that screaming in it? :p
 
Well.....Men would probably get turned on and wonder why there wasn't so much fun going on in their own bedroom. Women would probably get pissed off.
Next time you are outside, say...."What movie were you watching last night with all that screaming in it? :p

But what if the screaming all of a sudden stops? They use....

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To keep their partners quiet when they are beaten.
 
Well.....Men would probably get turned on and wonder why there wasn't so much fun going on in their own bedroom. Women would probably get pissed off.

Why is there always this presumption that men like something but women wouldn't when it is obvious both men and women do it together?
 
But what if the screaming all of a sudden stops? They use....

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To keep their partners quiet when they are beaten.

Don't do that to me...*Shudder* It reminds me of Pulp Fiction.:booo:

BTW: My neighbors are all so conservative, I would be surprised if they still have sex.
The only yelling I hear around here is when some wife is bitching out their husband.
 
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