zechaeriah
Registered Senior Member
alright, fine, let's forget the 5-guy scenario cuz i really am just being a devil's advocate here. i originally pulled that number up, if you read back, as a suggestion, not as my true assertion. (take note, i do this a lot for argument's sake).
my point lays more in the fact that a biotech factory has a minimum requirement of hands. what that is, maybe you could enlighten me. the other point i made is that people could be on a need-to-know basis, doing what they are told without asking questions for fear of losing their jobs, perhaps? i explained how this can happen easily with my previous post regarding friends of mine at MIT who got sucked into doing the gov't's dirty work.
well then, why aren't you discussing it here?? this is the first i've heard of this and you're not going over all the points that are supposedly crap, and that is precisely what this thread is for!
this is what i mean about the laziness.. you wanna call me crazy or strecker crazy, but you won't go over all the points he made in his dissertation.
i only see two real references here. one being the THEORY presented by Dr. Anne-Mieke Vandamme of the Riga Institute in Leuven, Belgium. she's using a theory to claim a natural origin of HIV is a fact. strecker on the other hand is doing the same thing but claiming HIV is manmade. (hopefully you'll see how i don't completely agree with strecker here, i again am just playing devil's advocate).
the other reference is weebee's post from january about the 1959 blood sample.
all your other references are blurbs about chimps and various diseases.
becauase only's weebee's reference is based on hard material fact (blood samples) that is the only real evidence for anything i am finding here.
where?? wtf?? this is simply a lie. you have yet to provide me with ANYTHING regarding lack of technology. maybe i missed the post?? please point me in the right direction here...
my point lays more in the fact that a biotech factory has a minimum requirement of hands. what that is, maybe you could enlighten me. the other point i made is that people could be on a need-to-know basis, doing what they are told without asking questions for fear of losing their jobs, perhaps? i explained how this can happen easily with my previous post regarding friends of mine at MIT who got sucked into doing the gov't's dirty work.
Also I did read a version of the strecker memorandum presented by nature which was presented in virology class a few weeks ago, it was very neutral and allowed us to read it and judge it as carp on our own terms.
well then, why aren't you discussing it here?? this is the first i've heard of this and you're not going over all the points that are supposedly crap, and that is precisely what this thread is for!
this is what i mean about the laziness.. you wanna call me crazy or strecker crazy, but you won't go over all the points he made in his dissertation.
We also presented several references on the origins of HIV as evidence to our claim that it is a natural virus.
i only see two real references here. one being the THEORY presented by Dr. Anne-Mieke Vandamme of the Riga Institute in Leuven, Belgium. she's using a theory to claim a natural origin of HIV is a fact. strecker on the other hand is doing the same thing but claiming HIV is manmade. (hopefully you'll see how i don't completely agree with strecker here, i again am just playing devil's advocate).
the other reference is weebee's post from january about the 1959 blood sample.
all your other references are blurbs about chimps and various diseases.
becauase only's weebee's reference is based on hard material fact (blood samples) that is the only real evidence for anything i am finding here.
We also present evidence on how the technology was not available at the time or even today to make a virus like HIV. Should I assume you did not read these?
where?? wtf?? this is simply a lie. you have yet to provide me with ANYTHING regarding lack of technology. maybe i missed the post?? please point me in the right direction here...