A teddy bear for Gitmo

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The United States is operating "floating prisons" to house those arrested in its war on terror, according to human rights lawyers, who claim there has been an attempt to conceal the numbers and whereabouts of detainees.

Details of ships where detainees have been held and sites allegedly being used in countries across the world have been compiled as the debate over detention without trial intensifies on both sides of the Atlantic. The US government was yesterday urged to list the names and whereabouts of all those detained.

Information about the operation of prison ships has emerged through a number of sources, including statements from the US military, the Council of Europe and related parliamentary bodies, and the testimonies of prisoners.

The analysis, due to be published this year by the human rights organisation Reprieve, also claims there have been more than 200 new cases of rendition since 2006, when President George Bush declared that the practice had stopped.

It is the use of ships to detain prisoners, however, that is raising fresh concern and demands for inquiries in Britain and the US.

According to research carried out by Reprieve, the US may have used as many as 17 ships as "floating prisons" since 2001. Detainees are interrogated aboard the vessels and then rendered to other, often undisclosed, locations, it is claimed.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/02/usa.humanrights

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Musn't forget Diego Garcia
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...al-reveals-terror-prison-on-Diego-Garcia.html
 
The mobile generation: prison ships

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/02/usa.humanrights

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Musn't forget Diego Garcia
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...al-reveals-terror-prison-on-Diego-Garcia.html

You're acting like American imprisonment is worse than be slaughtered in Africa, be a child in Pakistan, or living in northern Mexico. You're one of those people who follows trends, it's trendy to hate America...so you do it.
 
Would you say that if this was your father?
 
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But he's not in Africa or Mexico. He's been tortured to death by Americans instead.
 
His name is Manadel al Jamadi

The cause of his death was not generally known until February 17, 2005, when it was revealed that he had died after a fruitless half-hour interrogation, during which he was suspended from a barred window by his wrists, which were bound behind his back. News reports introduced the term "Palestinian hanging," a coinage attributed to the alleged use of this technique by Israeli troops on Palestinian prisoners. Since at least the sixteenth century, this torture has been known as strappado.

Captain Donald Reese, company commander of 372nd Military Police Company, gave testimony about al-Jamadi's death, saying that he saw the dead prisoner. Reese was quoted as saying that "I was told that when he was brought in, he was combative, that they took him up to the room and during the interrogation he passed [...] (the body) was bleeding from the head, nose, mouth." Reese stated that the corpse was locked in a shower room overnight and the next day was fitted with an intravenous drip. The body was then autopsied, concluding that the cause of death was a blood clot from trauma. Reese stated that this was an attempt to hide what occurred from other inmates.

Sgt. Ivan Frederick wrote an account to his family in November 2003 that interrogators had "tressed him out so bad that the man died. [Prison personnel] put his body in a body bag and packed him in ice for approximately twenty-four hours in the shower. [...] The next day the medics came and put his body on a stretcher, placed a fake IV in his arm and took him away."
 
So, (Q), send any teddy bears to Gitmo yet?

Yes, their little arms were tied up behind their little backs, with a bloody blindfold over their little button eyes and a cute little noose around their little necks. Is that what you were looking for?
 
Yes, their little arms were tied up behind their little backs, with a bloody blindfold over their little button eyes and a cute little noose around their little necks. Is that what you were looking for?

Wow, do you have any nice jokes about Auschwitz too?
 
Wow, do you have any nice jokes about Auschwitz too?

Yes. There was this Muslim and Jew sitting at the bar having a drink, when all of a sudden the Jew was whisked away to Auschwitz by the SS. So, the Muslim raised his glass and with a twinkle in his eye said, "Thank God for Allah."
 
Thats a joke about Muslims, not Auschwitz.

But I see how it explains your good humor about the torture at Gitmo. :)
 
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And there's proof he was tortured to death? Just how many people did he kill before they caught him?
He killed no one before being captured, as far as anyone knows - if that makes any difference, which it shouldn't.

The testimony that he was tortured to death (by, specifically, CIA interrogators, but we don't know whom) came from several witnesses to his injuries and circumstances, including the girl in the photo and a medical examiner. The girl was tried and sentenced, but for other deeds. That photo and that incident were kept out of her trial. No one has been sentenced, tried, charged, or even named, for the torture and murder.

And watching people in complete denial about what their country has been up to, kind of explains SAM's occasionally ludicrous comparisons and exaggerations. What exactly do Americans have to be hit with before they blink a couple of times and focus on what's in front of their noses ?
 
Sam,

Could you please stop posting pictures of Abu Ghraib victims? Text is fine, but enough with the pictures already. Some of us have reasons for not wanting to see them.


Kadark
 
S.A.M. is sorry for the disturbance Kadark, she understands it's not a priority for you. :p
 
Nah, it's mainly because my own father was tortured in Abu Ghraib (not recently, but earlier in his life), and because the pictures seriously piss me off. If we want to see them, we know where to look; there really is no need of posting them to prove a point (regardless of how valid her point may be).


Kadark
 
Sorry to hear that, but in case my wording didn't convey it, you're not the one I'm mocking.

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Sam,

Could you please stop posting pictures of Abu Ghraib victims? Text is fine, but enough with the pictures already. Some of us have reasons for not wanting to see them.


Kadark

What, just because you're an Iraqi? Pooh pooh, gotta wait for the democratic process to work its magic. Its not like you can just invade a country and hang a dictator for torturing people you know. The tortured will just have to stick it out till they get on the to do list :rolleyes:
 
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