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Anyone else think that drawing blood from a stone is easier then getting him to deliver on his boast.

Yes he's running away. Another used husk, my path is littered with them.

NEXT!!!!!

And the official version that is the truth stands.......
Your path just appears to be littered with paranoia and self gratutitious rubbish


Goodnight...past my bedtime!
 
Not changing anything...Just pointing out how fanatically paranoid that conspiracy nutters can get.
You changed the official version that is the truth yet? No?
So is this the best you can do....

Goodnight....

Well there was once a quote I like that if you're not paranoid then you're not aware of all the facts.

Have a nice sleep and I'm sorry I disturbed your fluffy pink bunny rabbit world.
 
This three-part video is pretty comprehensive.

"September 11 - The New Pearl Harbor" - Full version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1GCeuSr3Mk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7mDXHn_byA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DegLpgJmFL8

It has the latest analyses. I even recommend it to people who've seen the earlier videos.

This video explains the motives.
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/new-american-century/

It's not always easy to get people to look at the proof that the government did it. We can get people's attention with something really clear that doesn't take long to look at such as this.
http://0911.voila.net/index4.htm
(fifth picture from top)

That might make them think a long video is worth watching.
 
Well this one is compulsive viewing also.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6WSDxErgBE

It involves something that most people here seem to have trouble with.

It's called EVIDENCE.

But if you want a slam dunk find out about how they were still receiving ACARS data from UA175 35 minutes AFTER it had supposedly crashed into the South Tower.

Here's another reason to believe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mPBTmEmADI

It is also important to note the the Bus that exploded in the London bomb attacks exploded outside the headquarters of ICTS it was diverted there by unknown agents posing as police.

Just how many coincidences do you need?
 
Well aren't the responses interesting.

Just look at all that FEAR....

Yes you really really are frightened of me are you?
1. Why would I be afraid of something that didn't happen?
2. Again: questions have question marks at the end. Those were not questions, they are statements (claims).

I suspect there is some mental illness at work here.
 
1. Why would I be afraid of something that didn't happen?
2. Again: questions have question marks at the end. Those were not questions, they are statements (claims).

I suspect there is some mental illness at work here.

"Intelligence looks like insanity to drooling imbeciles"
- Roseanne Barr.

I need answers. http://www.tubechop.com/watch/1948393 -????????????????????

Oh and here's the answer to your question "Why would I be afraid of something that didn't happen"

http://www.tubechop.com/watch/1947728

You have been subjected to a hypnotic trauma event and you remain deluded.
 
Please stop ducking the question

Show me your evidence.

Evidence.

the only way you will stop me continually making you deliver on your statement is what JREF did and ban me.

Being banned from a forum is not a positive and does not support your position. It is an indication that you were an annoyance.
 
Evidence.



Being banned from a forum is not a positive and does not support your position. It is an indication that you were an annoyance.

Well at least you had the guts to post what you call EVIDENCE.

I take you know that NIST was forced to change their final draft on WTC 7 collapse several times. Initially they said that the building did not fall at free fall speed, however they were eventually forced kicking and screaming to admitting that it did.

But here's the rub.

It doesn't matter how it fell what matters is who did it.

I can understand me being an annoyance, after all I'm making you look at stuff that violates your comfort zone. What else would I be other than an annoyance?
 
roscoe

You seem to think we have posted no evidence that the Twin Towers fell because some asshole flew planes full of people into them. Just for you and the rest of the nutters I will repeat...

Final Reports from the NIST Investigation of the World Trade Center Disaster

Final Reports released in September 2005:
NIST NCSTAR 1: Federal Building and Fire Safety Investigation of the World Trade Center Disaster: Final Report of the National Construction Safety Team on the Collapses of the World Trade Center Tower
NIST NCSTAR 1-1: Design, Construction, and Maintenance of Structural and Life Safety Systems
NIST NCSTAR 1-1A: Design and Construction of Structural Systems
NIST NCSTAR 1-1A appendixes A-B
NIST NCSTAR 1-1A appendixes C-G
NIST NCSTAR 1-1B: Comparison of Building Code Structural Requirements
NIST NCSTAR 1-1C: Maintenance and Modifications to Structural Systems
NIST NCSTAR 1-1C appendixes
NIST NCSTAR 1-1D: Fire Protection and Life Safety Provisions Applied to the Design and Construction of World Trade Center 1, 2, and 7 and Post-Construction Provisions Applied after Occupancy
NIST NCSTAR 1-1E: Comparison of Codes, Standards, and Practices in Use at the Time of the Design and Construction of World Trade Center 1, 2, and 7
NIST NCSTAR 1-1F: Comparison of the 1968 and Current (2003) New York City Building Code Provisions
NIST NCSTAR 1-1G: Amendments to the Fire Protection and Life Safety Provisions of the New York City Building Code by Local Laws Adopted while World Trade Center 1, 2, and 7 Were in Use
NIST NCSTAR 1-1H: Post-Construction Modification to Fire Protection and Life Safety Systems of the World Trade Center Towers
NIST NCSTAR 1-1I: Post-Construction Modifications to Fire Protection, Life Safety, and Structural Systems of World Trade Center 7
NIST NCSTAR 1-1J: Design, Installation, and Operation of Fuel Systems for Emergency Power in World Trade Center 7
NIST NCSTAR 1-2: Baseline Structural Performance and Aircraft Impact Damage Analysis of the World Trade Center Towers
NIST NCSTAR 1-2A: Reference Structural Models and Baseline Performance Analysis of the World Trade Center Towers
NIST NCSTAR 1-2B: Analysis of Aircraft Impacts into the World Trade Center Towers (Chapters 1-8)
NIST NCSTAR 1-2B: Chapters 9-11
NIST NCSTAR 1-2B: appendixes
NIST NCSTAR 1-3: Mechanical and Metallurgical Analysis of Structural Steel
NIST NCSTAR 1-3A: Contemporaneous Structural Steel Specifications
NIST NCSTAR 1-3B: Steel Inventory and Identification
NIST NCSTAR 1-3C: Damage and Failure Modes of Structural Steel Components
NIST NCSTAR 1-3C: appendixes
NIST NCSTAR 1-3D: Mechanical Properties of Structural Steels
NIST NCSTAR 1-3E: Physical Properties of Structural Steels
NIST NCSTAR 1-4: Active Fire Protection Systems
NIST NCSTAR 1-4A: Post-Construction Fires prior to September 11, 2001
NIST NCSTAR 1-4B: Fire Suppression Systems
NIST NCSTAR 1-4C: Fire Alarm Systems
NIST NCSTAR 1-4D: Smoke Management Systems
NIST NCSTAR 1-5: Reconstruction of the Fires in the World Trade Center Towers
NIST NCSTAR 1-5A: Visual Evidence, Damage Estimates, and Timeline Analysis (Chapters 1-8)
NIST NCSTAR 1-5A: Chapters 9-appendix C
NIST NCSTAR 1-5A: appendixes D-G
NIST NCSTAR 1-5A: appendixes H-M
NIST NCSTAR 1-5B: Experiments and Modeling of Structural Steel Elements Exposed to Fire
NIST NCSTAR 1-5C: Fire Tests of Single Office Workstations
NIST NCSTAR 1-5D: Reaction of Ceiling Tile Systems to Shocks
NIST NCSTAR 1-5E: Experiments and Modeling of Multiple Workstations Burning in a Compartment
NIST NCSTAR 1-5F: Computer Simulation of the Fires in the World Trade Center Towers
NIST NCSTAR 1-5G: Fire Structure Interface and Thermal Response of the World Trade Center Towers
NIST NCSTAR 1-6: Structural Fire Response and Probable Collapse Sequence of the World Trade Center Towers
NIST NCSTAR 1-6A: Passive Fire Protection
NIST NCSTAR 1-6B: Fire Resistance Tests of the Floor Truss Systems
NIST NCSTAR 1-6C: Component, Connection, and Subsystem Structural Analysis
NIST NCSTAR 1-6D: Global Structural Analysis of the Response of the World Trade Center Towers to Impact Damage and Fire
NIST NCSTAR 1-7: Occupant Behavior, Egress, and Emergency Communication
NIST NCSTAR 1-7A: Analysis of Published Accounts of the World Trade Center Evacuation
NIST NCSTAR 1-7B: Technical Documentation for Survey Administration: Questionnaires, Interviews, and Focus Groups
NIST NCSTAR 1-8: The Emergency Response Operations
NIST NCSTAR 1-8: Appendixes A-L

All of these reports can be read here...

http://www.nist.gov/el/disasterstudi...nalreports.cfm

These are the SCIENTIFIC explanations for the physical events of that day and you have discredited not one of these reports. They stand unchallenged. THAT'S OUR EVIDENCE.

The only people responsible for the attack were the assholes who flew those planes and those who sent them. The only people who are as morally reprehensible as those assholes are the assholes who form circular firing squads trying to blame anyone but those 19 assholes and their evil philosophy for that attack.

You can argue all you like about the actions of the Bush administration AFTER 911 or even the policies they followed before that which may have caused those people to WANT to fly planes into buildings and put no roadblocks in their way, but the physical event has been thoroughly investigated by the best technical group in the whole, wide world(NIST)and what we saw happen is exactly what happened. Planes full of fuel, flying at close to 500mph, were enough to bring down those buildings, it happened twice on the same day in the same way(with slightly different outcomes due to slightly different initial conditions). That no such event had ever happened before is just a result of the fact that such buildings have only existed for a few decades and despite claims to the contrary, they were not designed to be able to survive such abuse.

Now, stop trolling. Your idiotic drivel isn't going to get you anywhere here(or in life in general), even if you all pull Kane Wests on every microphone on Earth. Dead enders are losers in the game of life.

Grumpy:cool:
 
I have thought about the terror often. pilots, language differential, immigration crap, maybe the criminals parachuted out and that's what that horror of the van shooting in va was apparently the criminals where caught, such was televised.

the stuff freaks me out I believe in international peace.
 
roscoe

You seem to think we have posted no evidence that the Twin Towers fell because some asshole flew planes full of people into them. Just for you and the rest of the nutters I will repeat...

Final Reports from the NIST Investigation of the World Trade Center Disaster

Final Reports released in September 2005:
NIST NCSTAR 1: Federal Building and Fire Safety Investigation of the World Trade Center Disaster: Final Report of the National Construction Safety Team on the Collapses of the World Trade Center Tower
NIST NCSTAR 1-1: Design, Construction, and Maintenance of Structural and Life Safety Systems
NIST NCSTAR 1-1A: Design and Construction of Structural Systems
NIST NCSTAR 1-1A appendixes A-B
NIST NCSTAR 1-1A appendixes C-G
NIST NCSTAR 1-1B: Comparison of Building Code Structural Requirements
NIST NCSTAR 1-1C: Maintenance and Modifications to Structural Systems
NIST NCSTAR 1-1C appendixes
NIST NCSTAR 1-1D: Fire Protection and Life Safety Provisions Applied to the Design and Construction of World Trade Center 1, 2, and 7 and Post-Construction Provisions Applied after Occupancy
NIST NCSTAR 1-1E: Comparison of Codes, Standards, and Practices in Use at the Time of the Design and Construction of World Trade Center 1, 2, and 7
NIST NCSTAR 1-1F: Comparison of the 1968 and Current (2003) New York City Building Code Provisions
NIST NCSTAR 1-1G: Amendments to the Fire Protection and Life Safety Provisions of the New York City Building Code by Local Laws Adopted while World Trade Center 1, 2, and 7 Were in Use
NIST NCSTAR 1-1H: Post-Construction Modification to Fire Protection and Life Safety Systems of the World Trade Center Towers
NIST NCSTAR 1-1I: Post-Construction Modifications to Fire Protection, Life Safety, and Structural Systems of World Trade Center 7
NIST NCSTAR 1-1J: Design, Installation, and Operation of Fuel Systems for Emergency Power in World Trade Center 7
NIST NCSTAR 1-2: Baseline Structural Performance and Aircraft Impact Damage Analysis of the World Trade Center Towers
NIST NCSTAR 1-2A: Reference Structural Models and Baseline Performance Analysis of the World Trade Center Towers
NIST NCSTAR 1-2B: Analysis of Aircraft Impacts into the World Trade Center Towers (Chapters 1-8)
NIST NCSTAR 1-2B: Chapters 9-11
NIST NCSTAR 1-2B: appendixes
NIST NCSTAR 1-3: Mechanical and Metallurgical Analysis of Structural Steel
NIST NCSTAR 1-3A: Contemporaneous Structural Steel Specifications
NIST NCSTAR 1-3B: Steel Inventory and Identification
NIST NCSTAR 1-3C: Damage and Failure Modes of Structural Steel Components
NIST NCSTAR 1-3C: appendixes
NIST NCSTAR 1-3D: Mechanical Properties of Structural Steels
NIST NCSTAR 1-3E: Physical Properties of Structural Steels
NIST NCSTAR 1-4: Active Fire Protection Systems
NIST NCSTAR 1-4A: Post-Construction Fires prior to September 11, 2001
NIST NCSTAR 1-4B: Fire Suppression Systems
NIST NCSTAR 1-4C: Fire Alarm Systems
NIST NCSTAR 1-4D: Smoke Management Systems
NIST NCSTAR 1-5: Reconstruction of the Fires in the World Trade Center Towers
NIST NCSTAR 1-5A: Visual Evidence, Damage Estimates, and Timeline Analysis (Chapters 1-8)
NIST NCSTAR 1-5A: Chapters 9-appendix C
NIST NCSTAR 1-5A: appendixes D-G
NIST NCSTAR 1-5A: appendixes H-M
NIST NCSTAR 1-5B: Experiments and Modeling of Structural Steel Elements Exposed to Fire
NIST NCSTAR 1-5C: Fire Tests of Single Office Workstations
NIST NCSTAR 1-5D: Reaction of Ceiling Tile Systems to Shocks
NIST NCSTAR 1-5E: Experiments and Modeling of Multiple Workstations Burning in a Compartment
NIST NCSTAR 1-5F: Computer Simulation of the Fires in the World Trade Center Towers
NIST NCSTAR 1-5G: Fire Structure Interface and Thermal Response of the World Trade Center Towers
NIST NCSTAR 1-6: Structural Fire Response and Probable Collapse Sequence of the World Trade Center Towers
NIST NCSTAR 1-6A: Passive Fire Protection
NIST NCSTAR 1-6B: Fire Resistance Tests of the Floor Truss Systems
NIST NCSTAR 1-6C: Component, Connection, and Subsystem Structural Analysis
NIST NCSTAR 1-6D: Global Structural Analysis of the Response of the World Trade Center Towers to Impact Damage and Fire
NIST NCSTAR 1-7: Occupant Behavior, Egress, and Emergency Communication
NIST NCSTAR 1-7A: Analysis of Published Accounts of the World Trade Center Evacuation
NIST NCSTAR 1-7B: Technical Documentation for Survey Administration: Questionnaires, Interviews, and Focus Groups
NIST NCSTAR 1-8: The Emergency Response Operations
NIST NCSTAR 1-8: Appendixes A-L

All of these reports can be read here...

http://www.nist.gov/el/disasterstudi...nalreports.cfm

These are the SCIENTIFIC explanations for the physical events of that day and you have discredited not one of these reports. They stand unchallenged. THAT'S OUR EVIDENCE.

The only people responsible for the attack were the assholes who flew those planes and those who sent them. The only people who are as morally reprehensible as those assholes are the assholes who form circular firing squads trying to blame anyone but those 19 assholes and their evil philosophy for that attack.

You can argue all you like about the actions of the Bush administration AFTER 911 or even the policies they followed before that which may have caused those people to WANT to fly planes into buildings and put no roadblocks in their way, but the physical event has been thoroughly investigated by the best technical group in the whole, wide world(NIST)and what we saw happen is exactly what happened. Planes full of fuel, flying at close to 500mph, were enough to bring down those buildings, it happened twice on the same day in the same way(with slightly different outcomes due to slightly different initial conditions). That no such event had ever happened before is just a result of the fact that such buildings have only existed for a few decades and despite claims to the contrary, they were not designed to be able to survive such abuse.

Now, stop trolling. Your idiotic drivel isn't going to get you anywhere here(or in life in general), even if you all pull Kane Wests on every microphone on Earth. Dead enders are losers in the game of life.

Grumpy:cool:

OK the towers fell because the planes crashed into them.

Now give me some answers on this

http://www.tubechop.com/watch/1948595
 
But anyway thanks for the GUESS

Of course we do have this

http://www.tubechop.com/watch/1948698

Coupled with this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc23nPsmP_Q

Confirming what he said.

But at the end of the day the planes could have brought down the towers

NOTHING CHANGES.

Oh by the way the NIST report isn't evidence it is merely what one Government Agency THINKS what happened. How could they know all the material evidence was spirited away from a crime scene. It was ALL complete conjecture, done without ever considering the possibilities of planted explosives. Without ANY evidence to allow them to do so they rejected any investigation that may include the possibility of pre-planted explosives.

The word incomplete springs to mind.

New investigation required which includes ALL scenarios and no pre-conceived ideas.

Anyone got a problem with that, if yes please state why.
 
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roscoe, I seriously doubt you will get banned, unless you become abusive or try to post this stuff in the science sections. I assume you will just be ignored, you are just rehashing the same conspiracy stuff that has been debunked over and over. You won't change your mind and you haven't got any evidence to change a nonconspiracy minded person so just enjoy your mission I guess.
 
Let's ask kitteh what she thinks:

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roscoe

You seem to think we have posted no evidence that the Twin Towers fell because some asshole flew planes full of people into them. Just for you and the rest of the nutters I will repeat...

Final Reports from the NIST Investigation of the World Trade Center Disaster

Final Reports released in September 2005:
NIST NCSTAR 1: Federal Building and Fire Safety Investigation of the World Trade Center Disaster: Final Report of the National Construction Safety Team on the Collapses of the World Trade Center Tower
NIST NCSTAR 1-1: Design, Construction, and Maintenance of Structural and Life Safety Systems
NIST NCSTAR 1-1A: Design and Construction of Structural Systems
NIST NCSTAR 1-1A appendixes A-B
NIST NCSTAR 1-1A appendixes C-G
NIST NCSTAR 1-1B: Comparison of Building Code Structural Requirements
NIST NCSTAR 1-1C: Maintenance and Modifications to Structural Systems
NIST NCSTAR 1-1C appendixes
NIST NCSTAR 1-1D: Fire Protection and Life Safety Provisions Applied to the Design and Construction of World Trade Center 1, 2, and 7 and Post-Construction Provisions Applied after Occupancy
NIST NCSTAR 1-1E: Comparison of Codes, Standards, and Practices in Use at the Time of the Design and Construction of World Trade Center 1, 2, and 7
NIST NCSTAR 1-1F: Comparison of the 1968 and Current (2003) New York City Building Code Provisions
NIST NCSTAR 1-1G: Amendments to the Fire Protection and Life Safety Provisions of the New York City Building Code by Local Laws Adopted while World Trade Center 1, 2, and 7 Were in Use
NIST NCSTAR 1-1H: Post-Construction Modification to Fire Protection and Life Safety Systems of the World Trade Center Towers
NIST NCSTAR 1-1I: Post-Construction Modifications to Fire Protection, Life Safety, and Structural Systems of World Trade Center 7
NIST NCSTAR 1-1J: Design, Installation, and Operation of Fuel Systems for Emergency Power in World Trade Center 7
NIST NCSTAR 1-2: Baseline Structural Performance and Aircraft Impact Damage Analysis of the World Trade Center Towers
NIST NCSTAR 1-2A: Reference Structural Models and Baseline Performance Analysis of the World Trade Center Towers
NIST NCSTAR 1-2B: Analysis of Aircraft Impacts into the World Trade Center Towers (Chapters 1-8)
NIST NCSTAR 1-2B: Chapters 9-11
NIST NCSTAR 1-2B: appendixes
NIST NCSTAR 1-3: Mechanical and Metallurgical Analysis of Structural Steel
NIST NCSTAR 1-3A: Contemporaneous Structural Steel Specifications
NIST NCSTAR 1-3B: Steel Inventory and Identification
NIST NCSTAR 1-3C: Damage and Failure Modes of Structural Steel Components
NIST NCSTAR 1-3C: appendixes
NIST NCSTAR 1-3D: Mechanical Properties of Structural Steels
NIST NCSTAR 1-3E: Physical Properties of Structural Steels
NIST NCSTAR 1-4: Active Fire Protection Systems
NIST NCSTAR 1-4A: Post-Construction Fires prior to September 11, 2001
NIST NCSTAR 1-4B: Fire Suppression Systems
NIST NCSTAR 1-4C: Fire Alarm Systems
NIST NCSTAR 1-4D: Smoke Management Systems
NIST NCSTAR 1-5: Reconstruction of the Fires in the World Trade Center Towers
NIST NCSTAR 1-5A: Visual Evidence, Damage Estimates, and Timeline Analysis (Chapters 1-8)
NIST NCSTAR 1-5A: Chapters 9-appendix C
NIST NCSTAR 1-5A: appendixes D-G
NIST NCSTAR 1-5A: appendixes H-M
NIST NCSTAR 1-5B: Experiments and Modeling of Structural Steel Elements Exposed to Fire
NIST NCSTAR 1-5C: Fire Tests of Single Office Workstations
NIST NCSTAR 1-5D: Reaction of Ceiling Tile Systems to Shocks
NIST NCSTAR 1-5E: Experiments and Modeling of Multiple Workstations Burning in a Compartment
NIST NCSTAR 1-5F: Computer Simulation of the Fires in the World Trade Center Towers
NIST NCSTAR 1-5G: Fire Structure Interface and Thermal Response of the World Trade Center Towers
NIST NCSTAR 1-6: Structural Fire Response and Probable Collapse Sequence of the World Trade Center Towers
NIST NCSTAR 1-6A: Passive Fire Protection
NIST NCSTAR 1-6B: Fire Resistance Tests of the Floor Truss Systems
NIST NCSTAR 1-6C: Component, Connection, and Subsystem Structural Analysis
NIST NCSTAR 1-6D: Global Structural Analysis of the Response of the World Trade Center Towers to Impact Damage and Fire
NIST NCSTAR 1-7: Occupant Behavior, Egress, and Emergency Communication
NIST NCSTAR 1-7A: Analysis of Published Accounts of the World Trade Center Evacuation
NIST NCSTAR 1-7B: Technical Documentation for Survey Administration: Questionnaires, Interviews, and Focus Groups
NIST NCSTAR 1-8: The Emergency Response Operations
NIST NCSTAR 1-8: Appendixes A-L

All of these reports can be read here...

http://www.nist.gov/el/disasterstudi...nalreports.cfm

These are the SCIENTIFIC explanations for the physical events of that day and you have discredited not one of these reports. They stand unchallenged. THAT'S OUR EVIDENCE.

The only people responsible for the attack were the assholes who flew those planes and those who sent them. The only people who are as morally reprehensible as those assholes are the assholes who form circular firing squads trying to blame anyone but those 19 assholes and their evil philosophy for that attack.

You can argue all you like about the actions of the Bush administration AFTER 911 or even the policies they followed before that which may have caused those people to WANT to fly planes into buildings and put no roadblocks in their way, but the physical event has been thoroughly investigated by the best technical group in the whole, wide world(NIST)and what we saw happen is exactly what happened. Planes full of fuel, flying at close to 500mph, were enough to bring down those buildings, it happened twice on the same day in the same way(with slightly different outcomes due to slightly different initial conditions). That no such event had ever happened before is just a result of the fact that such buildings have only existed for a few decades and despite claims to the contrary, they were not designed to be able to survive such abuse.

Now, stop trolling. Your idiotic drivel isn't going to get you anywhere here(or in life in general), even if you all pull Kane Wests on every microphone on Earth. Dead enders are losers in the game of life.

Grumpy:cool:

But it is so curious that one of those reports says the top of the south tower tilted 20 to 25 degrees but then they never mention the center of mass of that tilted portion.

Three years and $20,000,000 and they can't be that scientific. :D

psik
 
roscoe, I seriously doubt you will get banned, unless you become abusive or try to post this stuff in the science sections. I assume you will just be ignored, you are just rehashing the same conspiracy stuff that has been debunked over and over. You won't change your mind and you haven't got any evidence to change a nonconspiracy minded person so just enjoy your mission I guess.

I'm still waiting for this to happen after 12 years.

Not much intelligent opposition has manifested itself on here yet.

Just the usual name calling from the deluded BCTs

We had a brief cut & Paste from someone who hadn't read what they were posting.
 
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