:wallbang:Why is that?
:wallbang:Why is that?
I think we should strive to properly investigate the most probable possibilities instead of wild conjectures, don't you?
okay, let's do that:I think we should strive to properly investigate the most probable possibilities instead of wild conjectures, don't you?
Scott Forbes, who worked in one of the Twin Towers, has mentioned quite a bit of unusual activity before 9/11. A summary can be found here:
http://culhavoc.blogsome.com/2006/02/28/scott-forbes/
Robert Moore's peer reviewed paper on the subject, Statement Regarding Thermite, Part 1, gives the reasons why their explanation doesn't hold water.
.We've been saying that for years, but apparently you still think explosives was involved.
.Here is a book for people that don't demand correct data:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/04...=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0465013058
i guess it's the same kind of nonsense in yelling "BOMBS" !!!.
So what is this nonsense with not having the QUANTITY of steel on every level?
.psikeyhackr,
Perhaps it's not such a simple answer. I mean to build a tall building the reasoning is that you need stronger materials at the bottom to support the weight and as you build up you can use lighter/less strong materials since they don't need to support extra weight but need to be as light as possible.
It's possible that the design did this with the inner core, but kept using the same grade of materials throughout the external framework, making the external framework heavier than it should of been.
However this is hypothesis, since from what I've come to understand is true, the towers were built with the core taking the load. Only would further analysis suggest if that was indeed the case, or if indeed they changed the grade of materials for the out frame like they did with the core.
.i guess it's the same kind of nonsense in yelling "BOMBS" !!!
after almost 8 years no whistleblower ever stated there was a bomb or shady operations at WTC 1 & 2.
get a clue.
Stryder said:Stryder said:Why don't you just go with:
"Elvis flew a UFO with an alien doomsday device weapon to wipe out the WTC to prove that Scientology is a Religion."
and have done with it.
I think we should strive to properly investigate the most probable possibilities instead of wild conjectures, don't you?
We've been saying that for years, but apparently you still think explosives was involved.
scott3x said:Scott Forbes, who worked in one of the Twin Towers, has mentioned quite a bit of unusual activity before 9/11. A summary can be found here:
http://culhavoc.blogsome.com/2006/02/28/scott-forbes/
If after today, I see you bring up Scott Forbes again without addressing my following points, I will be reporting you as a troll.
KennyJC said:
- 50,000 employees and only 1 (Scott Forbes) claims there was a power-down.
- Truthers have never shown any documentation of a power-down and not a single other person to corroberate anything Scott Forbes says.
KennyJC said:
- Scott Forbes keeps changing his story: Originally stating 36 hour power-down, he changed it to 26 hours. Claiming it was on the South Tower from the 50th floor up, he later said he wasn't sure if it affected floors below the 90th floor.
KennyJC said:
- With only one person claiming a power-down at the 90th floor, what about all the other floors? What about the North Tower? What about WTC7? 1 person claiming a power-down on a single floor for 26 hours does not a demolition make.
let's see, i don't think any of these people were present on the pile scott.190+ Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials
670+ Engineers and Architects
200+ Pilots and Aviation Professionals
400+ Professors Question 9/11
230+ 9/11 Survivors and Family Members
200+ Artists, Entertainers, and Media Professionals
okay, let's do that:
no cop from the pile reported any type of bomb debris was found.
no video from the pile shows any type of bomb debris being found.
no reporter from the pile has ever stated any type of bomb debris was found.
no investigator from the pile has reported any type of bomb debris was found.
no fireman from the pile reported any bomb debris.
no whistleblower has come forward stating any type of shady operations at the pile.
now scott, what would you say was the most likely cause of the collapse of WTC 1 & 2?
Robert Moore's peer reviewed paper on the subject, Statement Regarding Thermite, Part 1, gives the reasons why their explanation doesn't hold water.
<snip Kenny's usual insulting tirade>
- These articles are patents of inventions. Not things which have been shown to cut thick steel columns. This is why he uses diagrams and not the real thing to show his point.
KennyJC said:
- One of the devices is seen on youtube, but it is cutting a 1 inch hollow metal tube. Not tons of steel columns. There is no reason for anybody to believe a linear cut of thick steel columns is possible anywhere
KennyJC said:
- Mythbusters placed 1,000 pounds of thermite on top of a car, and despite cars being made of lightweight metals, the car was not cut in half.
- Truthers tried to do linear cuts using thermite at a burning man event, and they failed to such an extent that they couldn't even attempt any linear cuts.
scott3x said:190+ Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials
670+ Engineers and Architects
200+ Pilots and Aviation Professionals
400+ Professors Question 9/11
230+ 9/11 Survivors and Family Members
200+ Artists, Entertainers, and Media Professionals
let's see, i don't think any of these people were present on the pile scott.
the people that WERE present has this to say:
.His objection to NIST not modeling the full collapse is a straw man. NIST's models due to the magnitude of the failures that were occurring were not able to converge on a solution. NIST did not have to model the complete collapse anyway. All they were paid to do was find out what caused the collapse, and they succeeded in doing so.
How would you know? Perhaps they did
He highlights the problem. Not many people are willing to lose their jobs when it seems clear that so few who were -supposed- to be interested in finding out the truth are actually interested in hearing it.
I decided that, for the truth if nothing else, I'd respond to a bit more of your post...
Do you have any evidence that anyone else in a position to know was asked?
If I were you, I'd focus on the fact that no one to date has refuted his claim that there was a power down. Why do you suppose that is?
Is that what he's saying now? That it was a single floor? If so, can you cite your source?
Do you think that they patented the nuclear bomb before they gave it a test drive? Kenny, we're talking about the military here; I wouldn't be surprised if they tested some stuff -before- it was patented.
Look Kenny, the military isn't going to go bragging about its top secret military capabilities
Again, thermite is not the same thing as nano thermite. Thermite is an incendiary, nano-thermite is a high-level explosive.
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What do you mean, "the core taking the load"?
The NCSTAR1 report says the load was split 53/47% between the core and the perimeter.
The report also says there were 12 different types of exterior wall panels so the perimeter was not the same all of the way up.
Why keep talking about HYPOTHESES? Why not just demand that AUTHORITY provide the information? How anybody can claim to be SCIENTIFIC and not expect to be told the obviously relevant information is beyond my comprehension. Science isn't about TRUST!
psik
The site Patriots Question 9/11 has a long list of people who question the official story. Here is a summary of the people who they've found question the official 9/11 story:
190+ Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials
670+ Engineers and Architects
200+ Pilots and Aviation Professionals
400+ Professors Question 9/11
230+ 9/11 Survivors and Family Members
200+ Artists, Entertainers, and Media Professionals
Tell me Stryder, you have a similar list for people who believe that "Elvis flew a UFO with an alien doomsday device weapon to wipe out the WTC to prove that Scientology is a Religion"? Somehow, I really don't think so.