this is easy.. . . i made the how one. So post away.
draq, get over the fact that the russians sunk another one of their submarines. your post is BS.
That is a point though Scott, 9/11 wasn't just technically one event but a number of events that have been personified by the destruction of the World trade Center.
The "HOW" is obviously what has been termed by Terrorism for those on the receiving end.
Which was converted into a Religious war (By people that just don't understand how they were manipulated into an unpaid army willing to sacrifice themselves while those ringleaders were probably actually getting paid in profits from either the backing of countries that supported them or those countries that were producing weapons for use in such a war.)
Now the same people might term they are fighting as "Freedom Fighters" in their own countries, of course ignoring that without the cataclysm of attack, there would be no freedom to fight over. They'd still be in the control and under the indoctrination of those that had control over their countries.
This "HOW" of course doesn't look at just how the US was attacked but the World and it's Countries have been effected as well.
So in general the Tower itself is actually not as big as you might like to claim it to be, especially if you take into consideration the number of lives that have been lost since the war on terror. (Those are not just American lives, or lives through UN intervention, but the lives of those that get caught in the crossfire, or are so heavily indoctrinated they can't think for themselves)
Usama [lets use the Arabic here] sat in a cave in Wazaristan and gestured hypnotically....
Which if true is strong evidence against the notion that the planes had no people on board, however it provides no evidence against the notion that the planes were being computer piloted.The problem with the remote control conspiracy is that a number of bodies were found in relationship to the aircrafts that were hijacked, along with various body parts.
a flight attendant, handcuffed behind her back, then placed in a seat, then seatbelted? that doesn't make any sense. what about seat belted, then handcufffed with her hands in front in her lap? again that doesn't make sense. What is the source of this story? are you sure you have the correct way of the story?A remote controlled aircraft wouldn't have the body of a tied up flight attendant still strapped in their seat.
If anyone were to suggest such a thing, I am sure they would use the word "possibly" rather than "obviously". I'm also sure that if prompted and inclined to speculate they would suggest a more plausible scenario.I'm sure the comeback in regards to conspiracy is "obviously they visit a morgue and planted all these bodies on board" well that would work to an extent, however in the instance of the flight attendant found they would of easily worked out a time of death and if there had already been a post mortem.
scott3x said:I would argue that people like Kevin Ryan and Tony Szamboti are scholars concerning aspects of 9/11. You heard of them?
No. Why would I have?
phlogistician said:I do not have any suspicions wrt 9/11 being anything other than it what it was; a terrorist attack I don't need alternative explanations.
phlogistician said:The problem with the alternative explanations though, is that they are contradictory. Some say controlled explosions were used, others thermite.
phologistician said:Some go as far to say it wasn't passenger jets, but freighters, and others that a missile, not a plane, hit the Pentagon, despite eye witness reports to the contrary.
phlogistician said:So, if you believe in the alternative explanations, no matter how politely you voice them, you are a woowoo. Sorry.
This post is in response to phlogistician's post 65 in the "Which moderator..." thread in the SF Open Government forum.
OK, you're a nutcase.
this means nothing.The attacks were orchestrated under the cover of many military drills designed to hobble any response to the hijacks. Amongst many of the drills operating on 911 were simulations involving hijacked passenger airliners. Real planes were electronically remote-hijacked and computer controlled from the ground and flown into their targets. The drills and a second shadow command hobbled any response and neutralised the systems which should have prevented the attacks, with the exception of flight 93 which was shot down due to a delayed takeoff. Anthrax was later sent to the media and key individuals who would be expected to exert congressional enquiry, in order to cement the official story and shut down any investigation against the official myth.
Five books which people who want to understand more and investigate themselves, there are others i would recommend too, but these cover the core aspects of how it was done and a little of why.
All these books are eruditely researched, very well sourced and written by exceptional people.
http://www.amazon.com/War-Truth-Dis...bs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1227028963&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.com/Crossing-Rubi...=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1227029156&sr=1-4
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_b?url=search-alias=stripbooks&field-keywords=road+to+911&x=0&y=0
http://www.amazon.com/Welcome-Terro...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1227029131&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hidden-Hist...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1227029492&sr=1-1
Note, the case against the official story is proven in these books without any reference to demolition of the wtc.
Headspin said:The attacks were orchestrated under the cover of many military drills designed to hobble any response to the hijacks. Amongst many of the drills operating on 911 were simulations involving hijacked passenger airliners. Real planes were electronically remote-hijacked and computer controlled from the ground and flown into their targets. The drills and a second shadow command hobbled any response and neutralised the systems which should have prevented the attacks, with the exception of flight 93 which was shot down due to a delayed takeoff. Anthrax was later sent to the media and key individuals who would be expected to exert congressional enquiry, in order to cement the official story and shut down any investigation against the official myth.
Five books which people who want to understand more and investigate themselves, there are others i would recommend too, but these cover the core aspects of how it was done and a little of why.
All these books are eruditely researched, very well sourced and written by exceptional people.
http://www.amazon.com/War-Truth-Disi...7028963&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.com/Crossing-Rubic...7029156&sr=1-4
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_b?...to+911&x=0&y=0
http://www.amazon.com/Welcome-Terror...7029131&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hidden-Histo...7029492&sr=1-1
Note, the case against the official story is proven in these books without any reference to demolition of the wtc.
this means nothing.
on any given day the military is conducting drills, all kinds of them.
leopold99 said:for example most, if not all, of the questionable UFO evidence is a direct result of military drills.