What is nanothermite?
The following link, by noted alternate theory writer Kevin Ryan, can tell you a fair amount concerning nanothermites:
http://wearechangeseattle.org/2008/...etween-nist-and-nano-thermites-by-kevin-ryan/
What is nanothermite?
llnl.gov/str/RSimpson.htmlWhat is nanothermite?
why is this question relevant?
Ha! That's a good one.
I notice none of the Troofers will touch it with a ten foot pole.
There were thousands of tetimonies taken. Yes there are some where people describe hearing banging noises they thought were explosions. It may have even been a reasonable guess at the time considering there was a bombing attempt a few years earlier. However there were also many things causing those noises that day that were not bombs. How else would you describe a large banging noise anyway? You talk about evidence but you discard all these possibilities. There is no evidence for bombs other than the pitiful cherry picking of witness testimony, which can be explained.Here is the problem:
KennyJC says "Let's just make it clear that no explosions were heard"
here is a 10 minute video which refutes his claim with a mountain of evidence:
youtube.com/watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw
the video documents dozens of independent witnesses describing bombs, explosions and detonating bombs. KennyJC's cannot know there were no explosions, bombs or nanothermite simply by stating "let's just make it clear there were no explosions, bombs or nanothermite", when the evidence is presented right in front of his eyes.
No you are ignoring the discussion that was at hand. We know that the steel softened. We know that the temperature was more than enough for this to happen. It would have been down to a very small % of its structural strength. The conspiracy theorists make claims of molten metal and references to the melting point of steel. If these girders were still recognizable as girders then they were never liquid. So what he is describing sounds like extremely soft steel, which is not suspicious at all.When presented with a structual engineer stating "I saw melted girders at the wtc" Shaman says he would like clarification of "I saw melting of girders in World Trade Center", but there can be no clarification of this, it is a precise quote with valid context from an expert first hand wtiness. perhaps what he would like is obfuscation rather than clarity, because he cannot deal with what is presented to him right in front of his eyes.
The question should now be asked why the hell you guys keep bringing it up. Do you ask people in the biology sub forum why they point out the flaws in Intelligent Design? Some people can't help but respond when they see nonsense. You should probably get used to that.This is not a scientific discussion of the data.
This is not an investigation into the evidence.
These are not honest conclusions.
This is simply choosing one's own reality, some would say "delusional".
The only question now is WHY Shaman, KennyJC and John99 behave this way and invest so much effort in propping up the official story.
If you mean gasoline then the answer is that gasoline fires will not melt steel girders.
Why do you use the term "troofer", if you are a teenager then i can accept that children enjoy mocking, but if you are an adult then i think you should be more mature. perhaps people avoid you rather than your questions because you act like a baby.
Miragememories said:"It is even more likely that the structural steel that was not in the direct path of the incoming aircraft, as well as the areas which were shielded by the building's heavy steel core columns, would have had most of it's SFRM remain intact."
KennyJC said:"What makes you think the core columns had most of its fire proofing when many of the steel columns would have been severed or heavily damaged by the plane?"
Right now, making energetic materials using the sol-gel technique is in the basic research stage, but results look promising.
Here is the problem:
KennyJC says "Let's just make it clear that no explosions were heard"
here is a 10 minute video which refutes his claim with a mountain of evidence:
youtube.com/watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw
the video documents dozens of independent witnesses describing bombs, explosions and detonating bombs. KennyJC's cannot know there were no explosions, bombs or nanothermite simply by stating "let's just make it clear there were no explosions, bombs or nanothermite", when the evidence is presented right in front of his eyes.
John99's rebuttal is simply to dismiss the video evidence and first hand witness statements presented right in front of his eyes by inferring "that evidence doesn't exist", declaring that he doesn't need to give reasons for dismissing it, pleading with us to subscribe to a "belief" in the official story.
When presented with a structual engineer stating "I saw melted girders at the wtc" Shaman says he would like clarification of "I saw melting of girders in World Trade Center", but there can be no clarification of this, it is a precise quote with valid context from an expert first hand wtiness. perhaps what he would like is obfuscation rather than clarity, because he cannot deal with what is presented to him right in front of his eyes.
This is not a scientific discussion of the data.
This is not an investigation into the evidence.
These are not honest conclusions.
This is simply choosing one's own reality, some would say "delusional".
The only question now is WHY Shaman, KennyJC and John99 behave this way and invest so much effort in propping up the official story.
Miragememories said:"Show me your proof that steel was witnessed to have been sufficiently weakened to behave in the manner to which you prescribe?"
KennyJC said:"The inward bowing of the perimeter columns and initiation of collapse happened exactly where the fire was doing the most damage. This was seen to happen with both towers.
There is also photographic evidence of the floors sagging to be found here:
http://www.debunking911.com/sag.htm"
I googled "nano thermite, and there were no links except to 911 websites. Hmmm.
Edit: I read your link,
So they don't exist yet.
Miragememories said:"It's particularly questioned [NIST's WTC 1 & 2 Final Report], because of NIST's failure to successfully explain the mysterious total high speed collapse of WTC 7."
KennyJC said:"Well obviously you ignore the internal failure that preceded the external collapse of WTC7.
A failure of a critical structural element means that the immense weight from above succumbs to gravity. Depending on the structure, it's entirely believable that the whole thing could come down very quickly. It's nothing like that "clunkity-clunk" nutjob stated. It's simply gravity and momentum."
explosions were heard for miles, they were witnessed and heard from hoboken harbour. you need to actually watch the video i provided, it details people outside the towers including international media sources describing huge explosions prior to the collapse etc. here it is again:The problem you face however, is that if there were bombs in the towers that were used with the intention of demolition, they would be heard for miles... and not limited locally to those inside the towers. They would have smashed windows in the surrounding buildings, they would be picked up by all the cameras and heard by those surrounding the towers also. Instead, cameras (even those very very close to the towers) picked up no sound until after the towers started falling.
I can think of several reasons that would make sense - nobody would be forensically looking for exotic explosives, thermites can be tailor made to behave as incendaries or high explosives, or anywhere in between. If it was your intention to hide the way the towers came down, then nanothermite looks to an ideal candidate. Applied as a paint coating or a foam direct to the steel beams, the people installing it would have no knowledge of its purpose.So why would the insiders use such an exotic material, when much more common materials are available and would do the job in a tried and true way? Doesn't make any sense to me. Occam's razor.