17th century coin portrays unmistakable UFO

Take a look at whats around the wheel/ship those are clouds. They have a round ship with a beam comming out of it with clouds around it.

or it could be a shield floating in the clouds. What ever it is its depicted as being in the clouds. Its very interesting for sure.



btimsah said:
They would probably start to debunk their own story, then go see a shrink.

As for the coin, that's cool. Though honestly the first time I saw it I thought, "A wheel". But thats because of the stick in the middle of it. Maybe that's the red lazor beam that comes out of some of these saucer shaped crafts..

I suppose we'll never know for sure, but it's a cool coin to look at. I want one.
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Hello all, just wanted to point out this site.

UFO and art

Sorry if it's not in English, but it can explain a lot of things.
Putting it down really simple: they are just "shields" appearing on coins (usually false) used by nobles for internal retribution.
Some images appearing on those coins have a satiric meaning.

So...no UFO there, sorry :)
 
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I'm not sure how far this goes, art has always been partially about the impression of the artist and how they view things. Regardless, the link you posted has a few faults in it with the latin, "opportunus Adest" literally means "Opportunity is here". as for the other part, I couldn't guess since I Cannot make out the other words. However, this is written in latin ,and it just usddenly hit me that this (with the arro involved) could represent part of the belief of the leapers (A.K.A the priests of mars) Durring the time of Rome, at one point a shield fell from the sky according to legend. The arrow could easily represent this as a shield falling, the priests of mars then in order to make sure that it was not stolen made copies, and only themselves knew which one was the real one. All the way from about 400 B.C. till late 16th century many coins were minted differently due to different people in power. This coin could in fact be in relation to the old roman tradition of leaping around in a parade on the ides of march (Hence why the beginning of julius caesar the play is a parade) with dozens of shields , only one being the sacred relic. This is all speculation ,but this coin could have actually been considered a map to the shield,pointing down to where it was which at one point was stolen and taken away. Pure speculation, I hope its informative and some of you enjoy the bit of speculation on roman culture, in all honest it is probably a shield reference, and there is a good chance a lot of us jumped the gun on the UFO speculation (even I believed it first)
 
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If you click on the site, you see this image:
<img src="http://www.profindpages.com/Img/UFOCoin.jpg">

But if you flip the image, and can read Latin, you see:
<img src="http://www.sciforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4041&stc=1">

Hey,
I am a Latin scholar.
The Latin is Vulgate (Jerome's Bible)
It says:

RESISTIT PAUCIS "He hath resisted by means of a few, (the good angels)
OBRUITUR PLURIBUS "He hath brought ruin upon the many" (ie the rebel angels)
The picture is the round sheild (of St Michael the Archangel) and spears of the myriad angels who revolted
 
I believe I already pointed out the flipped image and Latin on page one. But I might be mistaken... it is an old thread.
 
I know, but the translation if wrong. The verbs are not command verbs.
 
They may not be command verbs, but I still don't see the mention of "angels" or "hath."

Indeed, couldn't the translation be simply "resisted the few, overcame the many?" The verb tenses would be consistent, yes? Is there a direct passage by St. Jerome that uses this phrase?

I do, however, make out the image of an angel above the shield and, in that case, the "trees" might actually arrows of the few/many that are being resisted.
 
Yes, it can be the translation you offered above. My translation is an attempt to get to the original meaning, which I gathered came from the age of Christiandom.
I did a search on google and found no references to Jerome. It could be imagary drawn from Vergil's Aeneid, which was popular in medieval and rennaisance periods.
 
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SILAS: Are you blind!?!? "Obruitur" is clearly a misprint for ORBITER!! "

I like that, but obruitur is a real often used verb, whereas orbiter is unusual. I also doubt that the spelling would deviate that much from the original.
 
SkinWalker said:
They may not be command verbs, but I still don't see the mention of "angels" or "hath."

Indeed, couldn't the translation be simply "resisted the few, overcame the many?" The verb tenses would be consistent, yes? Is there a direct passage by St. Jerome that uses this phrase?

I do, however, make out the image of an angel above the shield and, in that case, the "trees" might actually arrows of the few/many that are being resisted.
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Latin is entirely dictated by verb tense, tense period can change an entire latin sentence or meaning behind an entire paragraph and often does, it could be that the coin is incorrectly done itself
 
I don't know why people are so into the whole UFO's came to our planet. Why would they come here? We are a primitive species that can't get past the acceptance of one another and their feelings. We have only just gone to the Moon (I don't want any discussion about it), so why would such a technological species bother with our insignificant planet?
 
I don't know why people are so into the whole UFO's came to our planet. Why would they come here? We are a primitive species that can't get past the acceptance of one another and their feelings. We have only just gone to the Moon (I don't want any discussion about it), so why would such a technological species bother with our insignificant planet?
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Same reason why we should bother to visit African tribesman, indians in the Amazon, Aboriginals of Australia, or any other primitive people. Heck, the same reason why we wanna find that uninhabited island out in the middle of nowhere. If all else, for exploration to know what is where.

Aliens, space exploration, and all that is just a grander scale of things on Earth. Use earthly analogies and things make easier sense.

- N
 
Hi Trendsetters,

a few more interesting 'ufo's' from art history;

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The above painting is by Carlo Crivelli (1430-1495) and is called "The Annunciation" (1486) and hangs in the National Gallery, London. A disk shaped object is shining a pencil beam of light down onto the crown of Mary's head.

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This painting is called "The Madonna with Saint Giovannino". It was painted in the 15th century. The Palazzo Vecchio lists the artist as unknown although attributed to the Lippi school.Above Mary's right shoulder is a disk shaped object. Below is a blow up of this section and a man and his dog can clearly be seen looking up at the object.

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For more go to ufoartwork

Peace
 
Which, of course, is all typical Byzantine iconography.

Have you stopped to consider when these paintings were created and then considered when the events that they depict are alleged to have occurred? There are about 12 to 17 centuries between them, depending on which painter is supposed to have "seen" the "ufos" they painted.

The reality is that this is standard Byzantine iconography and symbology for the divine.

Take an art history class.
 
I'd just like to thank you all. This is the reason I'm here (well, one of the better ones). I just learned a ton of stuff about divine symbology, Byzantine iconography, and a bit of latin.

Where else would you get hit with this stuff just browsing around? Excellent!
 
Or those are objects that people have actually seen in the past and came to the same conclusion that many have in recent times of Ezekiel and other passages being UFOs? I mean hey, it doesn't matter what time period I was in, but if I saw a UFO in those times, I would think they'd be the same. Heck, try describing a UFO without any mention of current technology and you'd get similiar descriptions.

- N
 
So what of Edvard Munch's "The Scream":

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Considering the haired and hatted figures in the background must be human, is the forward figure some Grey alien?

Okay admittedly I know the piece isn't about aliens, but I'm just proving a point about the human minds interpretation of things. It's especially been proven in such posts as "When is a rock not a rock" and "Can you see what I see".

There are factors to take into consideration, for instance Artists want their art to be viewed, discussed and potentially become a centre piece. Some artists do it for profit, others do it purely for the fame.

In certain pictures artists might add artifacts to gain acclaim, or they might interpret in the religious pictures some arcane power looking in as an artifact (Certain religions don't believe in "Iconism", therefore would stop any paintings of deities, which means you couldn't paint a god but you could paint his "winged chariot" etc)

There is then the point about paintings not being Pictures, I mean it's not like paintings and even sculptures are ever abstract.
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