12 proofs that Mohammad was not a prophet

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12 PROOFS ABOUT MUHAMMAD BEING THE TRUE AND THE LAST PROPHET:

1. Muhammad (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) was raised illiterate, unable to read or write, and remained like that till his death. Among all his people, he was known as being truthful and trustworthy. Before receiving revelation, he had no prior knowledge of Religion or any previously sent Message. He remained like that for his first forty years. Revelation then came to Muhammad with the Qur'an that we now have between our hands. This Qur'an mentioned most of the accounts found in the previous scriptures, telling us about these events in the greatest detail as if he witnessed them. These accounts came precisely as they were found in the Torah sent down to Moses and in the Gospel sent down to Jesus. Neither the Jews or Christians were able to believe him regarding anything that he said.

2. Muhammad (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) also foretold of everything that would occur to him and his community after him, pertaining to victory, the removal of the tyrannical kingdoms of Chosroes [the royal title for the Zoroastrian kings of Persia] and Caesar, and the establishment of the religion of Islam throughout the earth. These events occurred exactly as Muhammad foretold, as if he was reading the future from an open book.

3. Muhammad (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) also brought an Arabic Qur'an that is the peak of eloquence and clarity. The Qur'an challenged those eloquent and fluent Arabs of his time, who initially belied him, to bring forth a single chapter like the Qur'an. The eloquent Arabs of his day were unable to contest this Qur'an. Indeed, till our day, none has ever dared to claim that he has been able to compose words that equal-or even approach-the order, grace, beauty, and splendor of this Glorious Qur'an.

4. The life history of this Noble Prophet was a perfect example of being upright, merciful, compassionate, truthful, brave, generous, distant from all evil character, and ascetic in all worldly matters, while striving solely for the reward of the Hereafter. Moreover, in all his actions and dealings, he was ever mindful and fearful of Allah.

5. Allah instilled great love for Muhammad (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) in the hearts of all who believed in and met him. This love reached such a degree that any of his companions would willingly sacrifice his (or her) self, mother or father for him. Till today, those who believe in Muhammad honor and love him. Anyone of those who believe in him would ransom his own family and wealth to see him, even if but once.

6. All of history has not preserved the biography of any person in the manner it has preserved the life of Muhammad, who is the most influential human in history. Nor has the entire earth known of anyone whom every morning and evening, and many times thereafter throughout the day, is thought of by those who believe in him. Upon remembering Muhammad, the believers in him will greet him and ask Allah to bless him. They do such with full hearts and true love for him.

7. Nor has there every been a man on earth whom is still followed in all his doings by those who believe in him. Those who believe in Muhammad, sleep in the manner he slept; purify themselves (through ablution and ritual washing) in the manner he purified himself; and adhere to his practice in the way they eat, drink, and clothe themselves.

Indeed in all aspects of their lives, the believers in Muhammad adhere to the teachings he spread among them and the path that he traveled upon during his life.

During every generation, from his day till our time, the believers in this Noble prophet have fully adhered to his teachings. With some, this has reached the degree that they desire to follow and adhere to the Prophet's way in his personal matters regarding which Allah has not sought of them to adhere to in worship. For example, some will only eat those specific foods or only wear those specific garments that the Messenger liked.

Let alone all that, all those who believe in Muhammad repeat those praises of Allah, special prayers, and invocations that he would say during each of his actions during day and night, like: what he would say when he greeted people, upon entering and leaving the house, entering and leaving the mosque, entering and leaving the bathroom, going to sleep and awaking from sleep, observing the new crescent, observing the new fruit on trees, eating, drinking, dressing, riding, traveling and returning from travel, etc. Let alone all that, all those who believe in Muhammad fully perform-even to the minute detail-every act of worship-like prayer, fasting, charity, and pilgrimage-as this Noble Messenger (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) taught and as he himself performed. All of this allows those who believe in him, to live their lives in all aspects with this Noble Messenger as their example, as if he was standing before them, for them to follow in all their doings.

8. There has never been nor will there ever be a man anywhere upon this earth who has received such love, respect, honor, and obedience in all matters-small and large alike-as has this Noble Prophet.

9. Since his day, in every region of the earth and during every period, this Noble Prophet has been followed by individuals from all races, colors and peoples. Many of those who followed him were previously Christians, Jews, pagans, idolaters, or without any religion. Among those who chose to follow him, were those who were known for their sound judgment, wisdom, reflection, and foresight. They chose to follow this Noble Prophet after they witnessed the signs of his truthfulness and the evidences of his miracles. They did not choose to follow Muhammad out of compulsion or coercion or because they had adopted the ways of their fathers and mothers. Indeed many of the followers of this Prophet (may Allah's blessings peace be upon him), chose to follow him during the time when Islam was weak, when there were few Muslims, and when there was severe persecution of his followers on earth. Most people who have followed this Prophet (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) have done so not to acquire some material benefits. Indeed many of his followers have suffered the greatest forms of harm and persecution as a result of following this Prophet. Despite all this harm and persecution, this did not turn them back from his religion. My brethren! All of this clearly indicates to anyone possessing any sense, that this Prophet was truly and really Allah's messenger and that he was not just a man who claimed prophethood or spoke about Allah without knowledge.

10. With all this, Muhammad came with a great religion in its creedal and legal make-up. Muhammad described Allah with qualities of complete perfection, and at the same time in a manner that is free of ascribing to Him any imperfection. Neither the philosophers or the wise could ever describe Allah like such. Indeed it is impossible to imagine that any human mind could conceive of an existing being that possesses such complete ability, knowledge, and greatness; Who has subdued the creation; Who has encompassed everything in the universe, small or large; and Who possesses such perfect mercy. Nor is it in the ability of any human being to place a perfect law based upon justice, equality, mercy and objectivity for all human activity on earth like the laws that Muhammad brought for all spheres of human activity - like buying and selling, marriage and divorce, renting, testimony, custody, and all other contracts that are necessary to uphold life and civilization on earth.

11. It is impossible that any person conceive wisdom,, morals, good manners, nobleness of characters as what this honorable Prophet (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) brought. In a full and complete manner, Muhammad spread a teaching regarding character and manners toward one's parents, relatives, fiends, family, humanity, animals, plants and inanimate objects. It is impossible for the human mind alone to grasp all of that teaching or come with a similar teaching. All of that unequivocally indicates that this Messenger did not bring an) of this religion from his own accord, but that it was rather a teaching and inspiration that he received from the One Who created the earth and the high heavens above and created this universe in its miraculous architecture and perfection.

12. The legal and creedal make-up of the religion that the Messenger, Muhammad, (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) brought resembles the engineering of the heavens and the earth. All of that indicates that He who created the heavens and the earth is the One Who sent down this great law and upright religion. The degree of inimitability of the Divine law that was sent down upon Muhammad is to the same degree of inimitability of the Divine creation of the heavens and earth. For just as humanity cannot create this universe, in the same manner humanity cannot bring forth a law like Allah's law that He sent down upon His servant and messenger Muhammad (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him).
 
okinrus said:
There are many modern "prophets" that call for the worship of one God.


They are not prophets. They may be rightous people. A prophet brings a message. Do these people bring us a Quran or bible as a message for god.

okinrus said:
Did I say that Muhammed asked for money? Did he steal money through conquest?


What conquests???? Muhammed never conquested anything...for god sake, he never ever travelled more than mere 20 miles. He lived half of his life as an outcast from Mecca in Medina (about 20 miles away from Mecca), and he died in his bed in Mecca. Mohammed was neither instructed nor had any desires to convert the world or conqeust the world. He didn't die fighting a battle, he died in his bed with his wife by his bed chewing his woodpicks so they can be soft for his weak gums. If you want to call him returning home a connquest, then feel free. Also, don't confuse the conquests that happened after the prophet death to mean that the prophet did them.


okinrus said:
I don't believe I was referring to Muhammed, but M*W lack of evidence for Muhammed being a prophet. I don't believe she has read the Qur'an or stated why she believes Muahammed is a prophet. Unlike you, she has not presenting any evidence for Muhammed being a prophet other than Muhammed's rejection of Christianity. Her beliefs are defined by the rejection of Christianity.

According to your own words, she must not be any different than you. She praised him for no reason, and you attacked him for no reason.
 
Medicine Woman said:
Randolfo said:
Everything? what a record! BTW princess, you spelled my name wrong, I guess you're getting down to my standards?

BTW, the consonant group "PH" that sounds like an "F" is only an English conventional rule, & I'm definitely not English, princess
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M*W: BTW, phuck you, you illiterate Christian!
name calling, I'm so hurt!!!, how dare you call me illiterate, you philistine you!! you bad medicine woman, you!

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Flores said:
What conquests???? Muhammed never conquested anything...for god sake, he never ever travelled more than mere 20 miles. He lived half of his life as an outcast from Mecca in Medina (about 20 miles away from Mecca), and he died in his bed in Mecca. Mohammed was neither instructed nor had any desires to convert the world or conqeust the world. He didn't die fighting a battle, he died in his bed with his wife by his bed chewing his woodpicks so they can be soft for his weak gums. If you want to call him returning home a connquest, then feel free. Also, don't confuse the conquests that happened after the prophet death to mean that the prophet did them.

using this on google, "muhammad conquers" , I get 4,900 hits


http://www.carm.org/islam/islam_chronology.htm
http://faculty.maxwell.syr.edu/gaddis/HST354/Apr24/handout.htm

using this on google, "muhammad wars", I get 12,000 hits


http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Park/6443/Jews/treaty.html
http://religion-cults.com/Islam/islam.htm

are you sure about that, no wars? who told you that? what history books do you read or not read? Do muslims read secret, uncensored history books, that you must know arabic to read?

BTW, the saying may be 'peace be upon him', but while he lived it was, "I want a piece of her, I want a new wife, I want that gold, I want those slave girls, kill the jews, let allah enlarge my kingdom, I want 20% of the plunder, make all infidels bow to my cresent-moon god!" refute me, with his gentleness, or should I quote suras from the quran?
 
THE EVIL BIBLE :

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Have a look at it, it is very interesting !
 
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Flores said:
The fact that a prophet called for the worship of one god is not enough for you?
Anhkaten did to, & is the worship of 'aten' enough? what about if it's satan?

And the miracle of the Quran is not enough for you???
that corrupted text? satanic verses anyone? why do later verse abrogate the earlier ones?
http://debate.org.uk/topics/books/origins-koran.html

The fact that this weakly guy was strengthened by god againest all odds to survive and convert incredible opposition?? that's not enough for you?
sounds like Joseph Smith, the mormon prophet?

Mohamed never bragged nor asked for money? Where do you get your lies from beside your obvious hate for a person that have done you no wrong except that he called you to worship yours and his creator?
the hadiths,you know the ones you don't believe in, but which muslims through the ages believe to be the true life of Mohammad; murder of jews, murder of slanderers, 20% of the plunder, more wives, etc. he was a man of the world, chosen by the god of this world, to bring all mankind to 'submission' to himself, the evil one, look up the 'temptation of Jesus' in the gospels, were Jesus said "no" to satan, 600 years later, Mohammad said 'yes'

For me, I find the message to be extremely convincing that I wouldn't even care for any miracles, althought the prophet Muhammed was strengthened with many miracles....
funny how all those miracles happened after the fact, muslims got tired of explaining that the only miracle was the quran, & everybody laughted

And if you believe in Jesus because of the miracles, then you don't really believe in jesus, you just believe in the miracles.
that was proof that He controlled nature, not the ones in the quran, they are from false gnostic gosples, Nag Hammadi

You also don't know how to believe with your heart, only with your eyes, and guess what, the eye is the most blind organ in our body.
& what if your heart is wrong? then you are blind indeed? Read the Gospels Little Flower, see if Jesus doesn't speak to your heart?
 
Proud_Muslim said:
THE EVIL what?:
BTW, doesn't the Koran & Mohammad teach that the "Book" is true?

or is the koran a liar? looks like a mixed up, man-made, man-shaped, edited text. but no muslim will admitt that, because it would mean that their whole lives are wrong, that their culture is built on lies, conquest, deciet. P_M, why is the quran printed from longest sura to shortest? answer, to hide the truth, to abrogate the earliest with the later, tell us, P_M, what was the first qibla? & why was it changed? is allah a deceiver? can muslims decieve? are muslims deceivers? answer if you can, but don't bite your tongue with-holding the truth for lies

lets see, "evil koran' gets 89,800 hits on google, it must be evil indeed!
Oh! & have a look at it, it is very interesting !

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Randolfo said:
using this on google, "muhammad conquers" , I get 4,900 hits

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using this on google, "muhammad wars", I get 12,000 hits

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Doing a search about christian wars, I get this: Over one million hits.

Doing a search about Jesus and war, I get this: Over 3 million hits, puts Mohamed and wars 12000 hits to shame.

Doing a search about Jesus liar, I get this: 196,000 hits, surely 20 times more than your Muhammed war hits.

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Randolfo said:
lets see, "evil koran' gets 89,800 hits on google, it must be evil indeed!
Oh! & have a look at it, it is very interesting !

Let's follow your logic here.

"evil bible" gets over two million hits on google, must be 30 times more evil than the Quran.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=evil+bible


If you can't see how hypocritical you are, then it's time to get your eye prescription examined.
 
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