xev vetting posts that are critical of her position

There's a clear line seperating rhetoric and the bathroom brawl, and that line is so loud your ears would bleed. If you're going to lash out, its a disservice to you to wallow in:
Oh shut the fuck up. When I trodded in shit, you followed, wallowing like the fat pig you are. Again, I merely seeped as low as the context allowed; and those instances were limited to certain peoples. There is nothing poetic about that 20 page piece of crap you engaged in with the Tiss. All the nonsense removed, he called you a dumb bitch and you called him a pretensious prick. BS be damned.
 
I do not see how you can classify this thread as abusive to Xev. This is a complaint! Spookz also responded to a thread that Xev started. For chrissake, did you read her responses to Spookz in that thread or other threads???
 
Where is the whining? Cite specific instances that can labelled "whining". I see an injustice, and I am voicing my opinion. Do I get banned? For surely I will not stop as long as this is fresh in my head.

You are being unfair. Xev's behaviour is no different from Spook'z and yet he gets banned. @#^$@%
 
Cite specific instances that can labelled "whining".

OK, here's one:


Where is the whining? Cite specific instances that can labelled "whining". I see an injustice, and I am voicing my opinion. Do I get banned? For surely I will not stop as long as this is fresh in my head.

You are being unfair. Xev's behaviour is no different from Spook'z and yet he gets banned. @#^$@%
 
boo.

You call that whining? Was the previous statement whining too? What is whining is to label a complaint whining simply because yourefuse to recognize its value. Why that is, I have no clue. Xev mishaved, and abused, and Spookz gets punished? Come on Porf, you are better than that.
 
Flores said:
I can not doubt/question your sincerity, genuinity, and tact...I experienced it first hand. But please reread your own words and ponder a second. You said in the same sentence HONESTLY TRY BE NICE EVERYONE....

No I didn't. I said tried, as in past tense. Minor point, but becomes more important later.

So, you are basically telling me that me, proud syrian, chethluss slave, XEV, are all equal animals in which you would try to the same extend to have a conversation with each of us and reach a conclusion.

No, I am not basically telling you anything of the sort. I am telling you that when I first came here I tried to be nice and civil to everyone. Perhaps I should have said everyone I had a conversation with. None of you are the same person, and, again to be honest, I wouldn't have much to say to any of the group that you listed.
Nowthen, that being said, if i were to be in a conversation with any of those members, then yes, i would try to reach a conclusion.I am not claiming that I would try to have the same conversation. I am not claiming that all of them are the same. I am stating that in the begining, I would have attempted to treat them all in a same manner.

How can you honestly hold an acceptable level of interest in the subject while you are willing to entertain such a wide variety of animals that won't even agree to mate if they were the last species alive.

Becuase who i talk to doesn't determine my interest. It's fairly simple really. They are not all interested in the same subjects, nor am I interested in same subjects they are. That being the case, the chances of my being in a conversation with all of then simultaniously are slim at best.

Is that too sincere Mephura?

Too sincere for what exactly?

Would you really like Spookz to be just like you?

Nope, I wouldn't. Nor have I any idea what gave you that idea.


It aint gonna happen....why? Because spookz has been here far longer than you...
You been posting here far longer than I.

he has discussed back and forth to the point of saturation. He have seen it all, discussed it all, ect...

All of it, eh? So nothing changes in this world and no new thoughts are thought? For one so overflowing with knowledge and apparent wisdom, he sure is rather childish.

He have already reached the understanding that you are speaking of...He no longer need to try honestly to be nice to everyone, because he has a level of experience that allows him to read people much quicker than you.

Flores, remember the bit i said about that past tense being important later. Now is the time. Tried: Past tense. I stopped perhaps a month or two after I started posting. It doesn't take great experience to be an ass, Flores, just a wish to try. Perhaps you see wisdom, experience, and knowledge in spookz's "style" and "mastery of the english language", but alot of us just see an immature little punk with too much free time on his hands.
And for the record, flores, I am not here to make judgements on the character of the people i am talking to. At most, i am here to pass judgement on their ideas and their words.

Does sciforum appreciates that level of experience? Obviously not.....they perceive it as attacks, specially when some of the moderators lack the self confident the is needed to effectively adminster the position.

Now I am currious how you came to that conclusion. I've seen little of this experience that we should appreciate. Perhaps we should read his "how to be a troll" thread and learn from his experience?
Regardless of whatever experience or knowledge spookz might have, if he chooses not to share those and instead carries out little hate wars, I don't see it as useful. What good is a teacher that doesn't teach, but instead mocks you for his own amusement?

What is my personal assessment of this situation? XEV feels threatened by spookz...he overshadows her. He beats her to the punch line...He exposes her weak arguments...and Queen XEV, while striving to be just like him, must kill him first to assume his role and steal his personality....

You know that is quite possibly the most warped thing I have read in a while. Ever considered a career as a novelist?

This crap about XEV trying to minimize disturbances in the theads is the most barfing thing I have ever heard, considering that she is usually the source of disturbance.

I'll agree that alot of what Xev says is shit too. Personally, I think there has been enough outcry against her that something should be done there to.

However, what Xev has done doesn't change what spookz has done. To be honest, I see more instances of abusive posting from spookz than xev.

Much like the christians had to kill Jesus first to say that he is god...afterall when he is dead, he can no longer argue back with them...XEV would like to kill spookz first, then perfect his style for herself.

Firstly: That doesn't make sense.
Secondly: What the hell does religion have to do with banning some one from a internet forum??

Did you forget your pills today?
 
Porfiry said:
The thread you linked to.
Duh.

that's spamming? :eek:

lol. Aren't these Canadians sweet, with their quaint takes on the English language.
I would term that as mere cross refferencing.

;)
 
well since were on the subject i will make a couple of small points
one
the psudoscience area has been trolled and destroyed
most of not all seriouse posters have left it to the ego maniacs that mostly post sarcastic crap in there now along with the odd newbie comment or question where they get quickly harrassed by those same people
same for para forum mostly
same for the human science / psychology area that has gone to the crappers with
most posting being made by highly negative disfunctional perpetual looser type people
wishing to reinforce reasons to not bother with anything out of the normal victim mentality
its like watching teenagers argue over philosophy instead of swap cards...
moronic.. nothing less
well it is mostly teenagers making stupid moronic comments thinking they know such things . and as soon as a seriouse question is asked or posted in that area you will note that no one has a clue about it
the entire site seems to have gone the way of free thoughts
two teenagers having a contest to see who is more popular than the other
it is realy pathetic to see the site go this way
if it is not some freaked out religouse loony then it is some ego maniac running some attempted covert game of poppularity
ive lost all confidence in the science part of the name
maybe there are some interesting threads in the computing section ..
but quite frankly all there is on that i can read off a free help web site.. and is nothing to be discussed

ohh well
so it goes
lets hope some of the posters grow up fast

those of you that can not obviousely see what a certain mod has been setting up for a few months now have obviousely missed the entire game
now it has been completed
Porfiry
i get the distinct feeling that some people have been miss leading you
if the mods are going to use sexualy explicit phrases in abusive context toward people as Xev has on more occasions than i could possible count .... then you are setting up a no win situation to ban people for posting in a similar manner
if you wish to make an example you must lead by example

what is the trade off that has been made to get to where it is now with this particular issue?
that is something you might want to think of when you have the time and energy
look at the post count of the long term members compared to what it used to be
you will notice the majority of posts is now with personal bickering or people saying "hello nice pair of shoes in a science thread"
"thanks they are nice"
blah blah
it would be nice to see the site take more a a move back to the science nature in the name and what it use to be like before ir turned into a puberty-emotion head-butting post
i wish you good luck :)
not easy by any standards i agree :)
 
Mephura said:
Did you forget your pills today?

You didn't like my religious appeal at the tyranny of sciforums? :D
And yes I did, I forgot my pills. I forget them everyday, because I don't take any.. :D

Banning spookz is a mistake, that's all I have to say on this useless discussion. afterall, nothing we do here is likely to change Dave's mind....End of discussion.
 
"afterall, nothing we do here is likely to change Dave's mind"

That my dear, is highly irrelevant. In the event of an injustice, it is not in the hope that the injustice be reverted that drives opposition. Afterall, were Spookz to get unbanned, it changes not the fact that for a day and a half, his ability to login and post uinder has moniker has been taken away.
 
thefountainhed said:
Afterall, were Spookz to get unbanned, it changes not the fact that for a day and a half, his ability to login and post uinder has moniker has been taken away.
I'm sorry but that's made me laugh hysterically until I cried hysterically. I have said that the ban on Spookz was unfair and I shall always say it. But in light of what I witnessed today this statement has brought tears to my eyes. I was at an accident scene today and found myself giving first aid and performing cpr until the ambulance arrived and after helping the paramedics work on reviving this man, he was pronounced dead at the scene.

So I come home, have a couple of stiff drinks, shower to get the blood and pieces of glass off me and now I read this and you're saying that Spookz lost his ability to log in and post under his normal name. I mean for the love of all that's holy. I'm sorry but I find that funny considering that I watched someone die today and now I'm reading how horrible it is that someone can't log onto his normal name for a couple of days and how this is a terrible tragedy.

Is the fact that he can't sign in under his name the end? No. He can create another name and persona and post amongst us. Spookz is not dead, just his moniker in this forum. He can come back under another name. Spookz if you're reading this I'm sorry but I find this whole situation ridiculous after today. I do hope you come back and grace us with your presence again.

Now I think I need to get away from this forum before I scream. I do apologise for preaching but this is making me cry because it is so ridiculous in the whole scheme of things.
 
Everything exists within a specific context Bells. The worst that can happen here is that a member gets banned unjustifiably. In the real world, the situation you just mentioned is amongst the worst, and my condolenses and sympathies to that family and to you.

But again, this is a forum, and we are discussing events that took place under this forum. Simply because Spookz can re-register under a different moniker changes not a thing. And the fact that you witnessed a tragic event, or that some of us, have also witnessed tragic events, exist solely outside this context- sciforums.com
 
thefountainhed said:
"afterall, nothing we do here is likely to change Dave's mind"

That my dear, is highly irrelevant. In the event of an injustice, it is not in the hope that the injustice be reverted that drives opposition. Afterall, were Spookz to get unbanned, it changes not the fact that for a day and a half, his ability to login and post uinder has moniker has been taken away.

There is no injustice here. Spookz got banned because Porfiry had enough of his antics with the moderators and himself. You guys (mainly Wraith/Hed) need to drop this already, because many of you weren't around here when he had his issues with Goofyfish and Asguard as mods, and really have no idea how long this stuff has gone on.

I liked Spookz as a poster, I really did. BUT I also like Sciforums, and the contributions of time and effort, that Dave and the various moderators have given to this forum. This banning wasn't about "XEV vs Spookz", or "Spookz vs CC", it's about "Spookz vs the people who spend their free time helping this forum prosper".

Bells said:
I'm sorry but that's made me laugh hysterically until I cried hysterically. I have said that the ban on Spookz was unfair and I shall always say it. But in light of what I witnessed today this statement has brought tears to my eyes. I was at an accident scene today and found myself giving first aid and performing cpr until the ambulance arrived and after helping the paramedics work on reviving this man, he was pronounced dead at the scene.

So I come home, have a couple of stiff drinks, shower to get the blood and pieces of glass off me and now I read this and you're saying that Spookz lost his ability to log in and post under his normal name. I mean for the love of all that's holy. I'm sorry but I find that funny considering that I watched someone die today and now I'm reading how horrible it is that someone can't log onto his normal name for a couple of days and how this is a terrible tragedy.

Is the fact that he can't sign in under his name the end? No. He can create another name and persona and post amongst us. Spookz is not dead, just his moniker in this forum. He can come back under another name. Spookz if you're reading this I'm sorry but I find this whole situation ridiculous after today. I do hope you come back and grace us with your presence again.

Now I think I need to get away from this forum before I scream. I do apologise for preaching but this is making me cry because it is so ridiculous in the whole scheme of things.

Well said. :)

As with most forums, many posters take things WAY too seriously.
 
Simply because Spookz can re-register under a different moniker changes not a thing.

Actually, if he was IP banned; he can't come back. Unless he buys a new modem, or uses a different computer or something.
 
Actually CounslerCoffee, I think it would just be a username ban, since anyone connecting with a Dynamically allocated IP from their service provider would keep coming back with a different IP.

It's only the few with a static IP from their provider which would be permanent if based on an IP block.
 
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