World may back [Israel in] Iran op as part of deal [with palestinians]

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Rasputin said:
You're so thick I dunno if you're just trying to provoke for the fun of it. 30% of all US foreign aid goes *suprise* to Israel. Most of it of course (over 50%) is for food and proper education both of which the miserable Israelis lack so desperetely.

ifamericansknew.org/stats/usaid.html

ifamericansknew.org/stats/114bill.html

Despite of the generous funding for Israel US comes short by achieving only 30% of internationally agreed and set target of 0.7% CNI and is placed 22. falling behind New Zealand, Greece, Italy and Japan. This of course wouldnt be the case if all aid to Israel would be included in this chart as then US would be not only achieve but exceed the set target by nearly one and half.

globalissues.org/article/35/us-and-foreign-aid-assistance#ForeignAidNumbersinChartsandGraphs
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And this has what to do with my reply or the thread?

I said that all Governments provide aid to those who they consider a (best) interest to their countries.

And at the present time aid to Israel is considered in the best interest of our country.

Now as a Fact the U.S. is the largest supplier of aid to countries around the world bar or none, and we decide how it is to doled, and who gets what, according to our best interest, same as any other country.

I consider it very rude and crude for a beggar to insult the donor because of the wealth of the donor, and demand more just because the Beggar thinks the Charity should be more, because he deserves more.
 
And at the present time aid to Israel is considered in the best interest of our country.
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Is it really? Even American Jews are questioning the loyalty of those who have a "special relationship" with Israel.

Since 1967, the Israelis have demolished 24,000 homes in violation of international law.

Says Winograd, a co-founder of LA Jews for Peace, “I am for universal human rights – and the right to keep your home is considered sacred in Jewish tradition. The TALMUD a rabbinic collection of Jewish laws, recognizes that owning a home enhances dignity and self-worth. If we are to promote peace in the Middle East, we must heed Rachel Corrie’s message of non-violent resistance to human rights violations. I appreciate President Obama’s courageous call to action and support his efforts to begin a new peace initiative that holds both sides accountable to just principles.”


Winograd’s opponent in the 36th congressional district was previously investigated by the FBI for allegedly using her influence in Congress to get spying charges dropped against American Israeli Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) analysts. Harman voted for resolutions in support of the Israeli siege of Gaza and invasion of Lebanon and was a featured speaker at the recent AIPAC conference.

“I’m not clear who Jane Harman represents in Congress – the people of her district or a right-wing faction in a foreign government?” says Winograd. “When elected to Congress, I will represent the people of this district and the interests of the United States.”
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http://mondoweiss.net/2009/07/opponent-says-jane-harman-represents-israel-not-california.html
 
It is theirs actually. The only thing standing in the way of Obama implementing any solution in Palestine is the Jewish Lobby. Since everytime someone puts more starch in their shirt they shriek "ANTISEMITISM", the only people who have a chance of making things happen [as I have said for the last two years] is the American Jews whose loyalty is to the United States and not some religious mythology requiring incessant apartheid [never mind that they are then called as "the new antisemitism" or the "self hating Jew"]

Its good that the Lobby is being challenged for dual loyalty. The Israel firsters with US citizenship are guilty of treason. Maybe the American Jews who are loyal to the US will ask to deport the Zionists to Israel. That will be the real test of Zionism. Perhaps like Michael Oren, they will cheerfully give up their American passport, perhaps not.

Ironic that Leiberman wanted "Arab" Israelis to swear a loyalty oath. Wonder what he will think when American Jews are asked to swear one.
 
S.A.M. said:
Is it really? Even American Jews are questioning the loyalty of those who have a "special relationship" with Israel.
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But this is what you said, so which side are the U.S. Jews on?

The Israeli Lobby is made up of Jewish Intrest, supported by U.S. Jews, or there wouldn't be a Israeli Lobby.
 
See the page I linked with the news piece. Those are American Jews with a loyalty to the United States. Not a foreign country. America firsters. They support American values, not Israeli ones.
 
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S.A.M. said:
See the page I linked with the news piece. Those are American Jews with a loyalty to the United States. Not a foreign country. America firsters. They support American values, not Israeli ones.
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Yes, I read the link, and what you have is a politician running for office, and one individuals opinion.

If She truly represents the ideas of the People She will get elected, and then what, take money from foreign lobbyists who oppose the support of Israel, and then who's best interest is She representing?
 
Buffalo Roam said:
Yes, I read the link, and what you have is a politician running for office, and one individuals opinion.

If She truly represents the ideas of the People She will get elected, and then what, take money from foreign lobbyists who oppose the support of Israel, and then who's best interest is She representing?
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You should know the FBI is watching. :bugeye:

Franklin replies cautiously when asked about anti-Semitism in the administration in general and in the FBI in particular: "I don't want to go into details on this. I find it embarrassing to admit to a foreign journalist that highly passionate prejudices and biases like these still exist in an organization that is so respected and admired by the majority of Americans. I was asked about every Jew I knew in the [defense] secretary's bureau and had left, and that disturbed me very much."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1102358.html
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Never know when you may be picked up under the Patriot Act. :eek:
 
S.A.M. said:
You should know the FBI is watching. :bugeye:



Never know when you may be picked up under the Patriot Act. :eek:
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SAM, I have been trying to get picked up, I have used the trigger words in my phone conversations, I have made speeches in public, and expressed my opinions on public radio, and I have never even been questioned, and the FBI has never put a tail on me.
 
"the FBI has never put a tail on me."

That's true- They need not bother when they've managed to pin a head.
 
Some of us are just so damned productive all the time, that for fleeting moments we crave a sure, dependable, and complete waste of time.

That's when I think of you, habeeby. :fart:
 
When they persecute one of us, they persecute us all, Brother StrawDog. Samite Solidarity Forever!
 
Buffalo Roam said:
SAM, I have been trying to get picked up, I have used the trigger words in my phone conversations, I have made speeches in public, and expressed my opinions on public radio, and I have never even been questioned, and the FBI has never put a tail on me.
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Its not that hard. Try sending a letter to the government with a check saying you will pay for the first batch of stones to give the citizens the option of stoning a president if they think he is guilty of crimes and they should show up at your door(if their anything like the FBI during nixon and ford they'll return the check)
 
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