Originally posted by Blackstone
oook..lets see what we have here...
Oooh... thats quite a generouse gift from allah to women, he stated that men and women are both human
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WELL, comparing to how christians and jews were treating women before Islam, it sounds very generous.
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the only recorded event where a muslim woman pose questions to muhammad (oh the honour
) was that woman who came arguing with him about problems with her husband, in (Surat Al-mujadala 58-1)...it was just about a personal matter, and i cant see whats so great in this.
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WRONG, there is other case where a woman stopped OMAR BIN ALKHATAB and told him in front of every one you are wrong, after some debate, OMAR admited he is worng and the woman was rght. AKTA' OMAR WA ASABT AL-MAR'A.
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wow, you have the NERVE to talk about the muslim woman's testimony???
why does a female testimony = half a male testimony in islam?
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Because the emotional side of the woman is far more dominant in woman than men.
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bullshit, and have no backup proof.
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MUSLIM women voted for the prophet in BAIAT ALAKABA.
MUSLIM WOMEN IN EYGPT, SYRIA, LEBANON, AND OTHER MUSLIM STATE DO VOTE..........DONT THEY ???
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lol, that "Oath" was about admitting muhammad as a prophet and stating their submittion to islamic laws, lets look at the verse:
"O prophet!when believing women come to thee to take the oath of fealty to thee, that they will not associate in worship any other thing with allah, that they will not steal, that they will not commit adultry, that they will not kill their children, that they will not utter slander, intentionally forging falsehood, and that they will not disobey thee in any just matter, then do thou recieve thier fealty, and pray to allah for the forgivness of thier sins, for allah is oft forgiving, most merciful"
as we see above, the situation was not stating any kind of honourship given to women because that "oath" was all about women stating thier
submission to muhammad and his orders.
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BULLSHITE, you know very well that this NOBLE verse cant be refuted, LOSER.
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still bullshit with no historical proof, During all the history of the arab-islamic Impirialism, the 4 khalifas, the Umayya state, the abbasi state, the moorish state, the osmani state there was never a woman that held an important position like the khalif, a minister or main Judge...only in modern islamic ages did women gain some positions but because of the
secular[/b] laws on these countries.
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LOSER !! WHAT ABOUT SAGARAT ALDOUR ????????????????????
what about those MUSLIM WOMEN:
Khadija bint Khuwaylid
Aishah bint Abu Bakr
Fatimah bint Muhammad
Barakah
Ramlah bint Abu Sufyan
Rumaysa bint Milhan
Umm Salamah
Asma bint Abu Bakr
Zaynab al-Ghazali
Maryum Jameelah
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this no tjust "greater financial responibilty" but clearly states that men are a higher rank than women.
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Women in Islam have the right to own and trade without permission from their husbands....where do you find this right ?
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yeah, but why didnt you state what is the share Quran say about the female's partition when she inherit from her relatives? a female's partition = half the male's partition:
"Allah directs you as regards your children's (inheritance): to the male, a portion equal to that of two females"
(in 4:11)
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GREAT POINT, because in Islam the MALE is the one who supposed to take responsiblity for his wife, so if the male will get half and spend it on his female and the femal will get half and NOT spend it(because her male is financially responsible for providing to her), we will not get FAIR deal.....will we ?
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yeah, wive's rights
The Quran allowes men to beat thier wives when they did not obey them:
"Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, with what Allah has made one better than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them , refuse to share their beds, beat them ; but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance): for Allah is Most High, Great (above you all).
(chapter 4- verse 34)
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Moderator edit. This part was a cut-and-paste from the following site:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/beating.htm
Refution complete
