Why the sky is dark in the night

So what are you waiting for ? Give the calculations which will prove the lux of the order 0.001....
No, I said I would walk you through the calculations. You have to do the work - I will provide help as you need it. The only way you'll learn and accept it is to do it yourself.
 
Well, think of it this way: How many degrees of an arc are we getting of light from the sun, compared to how many degrees of an arc are we getting of light from the other stars?

Your obvious indication that angle by sun > stars, then the answer will surprise you, it is not what you are thinking....

Lets consider Earth to be a point...and now its basic geometry that angle subtended by the stars is much higher then that of by Sun ?

The better thing for you would be to list down the voids in our observable universe, and calculate the angle from each galaxy or do modelling on those lines....even the angle subtended by our Milky Way is much higher ? This explanation is shot down.

It is a fact that lux is of the order of 0.001 (measured / observed aspect), how do you prove it.
 
No, I said I would walk you through the calculations. You have to do the work - I will provide help as you need it. The only way you'll learn and accept it is to do it yourself.

Stop trolling......If you know the calculations put it here........
 
Your obvious indication that angle by sun > stars, then the answer will surprise you, it is not what you are thinking....

Lets consider Earth to be a point...and now its basic geometry that angle subtended by the stars is much higher then that of by Sun ?
You are assuming the answer when you need to be calculating it. I can help, if you want.
 
I'm not trolling, I'm trying to help you learn. Why are you so hostile toward knowledge?

You are assuming the answer when you need to be calculating it. I can help, if you want.?

I am not hostile towards knowldege, I am hostile towards your pretention of knowledge......unfortunately for you your pretentions got proved in that 'Cosmological Redshift' thread (your Post #11 there).

If you know the calculations (proof of 0.001 Lux), put it here, i will change my position about your knowledge.....till then enjoy the bliss of ignorance.
 
I am not hostile towards knowldege, I am hostile towards your pretention of knowledge......

If you know the calculations (proof of 0.001 Lux), put it here, i will change my position about your knowledge.....till then enjoy the bliss of ignorance.
"Bliss of ignorance"? This from a guy who refuses to even attempt the calculations he's making claims about? You are holding your mirror backwards. Truly, I feel sad for you.

Anyway, any time you wish to lift the veil off your head let me know and I will help.
 
Your obvious indication that angle by sun > stars, then the answer will surprise you, it is not what you are thinking....

Lets consider Earth to be a point...and now its basic geometry that angle subtended by the stars is much higher then that of by Sun ?

The better thing for you would be to list down the voids in our observable universe, and calculate the angle from each galaxy or do modelling on those lines....even the angle subtended by our Milky Way is much higher ? This explanation is shot down.

It is a fact that lux is of the order of 0.001 (measured / observed aspect), how do you prove it.
do you realize that the sun is a star?
 
....one particular poster messed up the same with radiation awashed, without understanding the definition of brightness/darkness...
Is that the one where I corrected your sloppy use of the term in the thread title, and you then conceded the point?
You made a statement that it is not dark, it is awashed with the radiation......technically correct...
And then, at my suggestion, reformulated your question?

Yeah, that's the one.
 
I am not hostile towards knowldege, I am hostile towards your pretention of knowledge......unfortunately for you your pretentions got proved in that 'Cosmological Redshift' thread (your Post #11 there).
Of course you are! Totally hostile towards any knowledge that invalidates whatever weird scenario you chose to imagine.
And as far as pretentious is concerned, perhaps you should check out the definition of irony and how it applies to yourself at near every thread you fabricate, in your anti science crusade.
If you know the calculations (proof of 0.001 Lux), put it here, i will change my position about your knowledge.....till then enjoy the bliss of ignorance.
No you wont. You will either ignore completely, and change tact onto some other fabricated agenda driven nonsense, or offer some more questionable pretentious scenarios that just do not exist anyway.

This thread, like your other mission thread, needs to be shifted to pseudoscience along with your other nonsense claims.
 
Your obvious indication that angle by sun > stars, then the answer will surprise you, it is not what you are thinking....

Lets consider Earth to be a point...and now its basic geometry that angle subtended by the stars is much higher then that of by Sun ?

The better thing for you would be to list down the voids in our observable universe, and calculate the angle from each galaxy or do modelling on those lines....even the angle subtended by our Milky Way is much higher ? This explanation is shot down.

It is a fact that lux is of the order of 0.001 (measured / observed aspect), how do you prove it.
So you're saying that a point (which Earth isn't) would get the same amount of light shining on it, regardless of its distance from a light source?
 
If you're interested, here is the thread where I patiently worked through the problem with a guy who was just trolling, for a month:
http://www.sciforums.com/threads/illustrating-olbers-paradox.141717/

He had a specific tack that he was taking which was a non-starter (The God hasn't even gotten far enough to have a clear approach to the problem), but my quantitative analysis starts on page 5.

Good, so you atleast posted the link. If thats what you have to demonstrate your mathematical skills, then you have failed miserably.

That thread is full of derision by you towards the other posts.

There is no useful maths given b y you in that thread, surprising part is that there is no mention of total lux by all the stars (sans sun) as 0.001 and you claim that you proved something....Prove why it is of the order of 0.001, till then enjoy bliss of ignorance.
 
Good, so you atleast posted the link. If thats what you have to demonstrate your mathematical skills, then you have failed miserably.
:D
As your own mathematical skills have been shown to be useless as welll as baseless...Professor Link, was it not? ;)
 
Good, so you atleast posted the link. If thats what you have to demonstrate your mathematical skills, then you have failed miserably.

That thread is full of derision by you towards the other posts.
Pot, kettle. I've stated repeatedly that I'm willing to help you and I mean it. You show your true colors every time you insult me instead of taking me up on my offer to help you calculate the thing you are claiming. The offer still stands, for you to reject again.

I'm sure no one here is unclear about who is who in this conversation. Heck, I think even you see it. So, what is it that is causing you to lash out instead of trying to learn? Is it fear? Fear that you will look stupid for showing us how bad you are at math? Trust me on this: no matter how bad you are at math, you look much worse for trolling instead of trying than you ever could by making a math error.
Prove why it is of the order of 0.001, till then enjoy bliss of ignorance.
Here's the thing that is most pathetic about this, The God. Beyond even the fact that it is your claim that you aren't even attempting to prove, I can go outside right now and look up at the sky and not get blinded by the starlight. You are arguing against reality!
 
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You are arguing against reality!

Three threads at this time all started by our divine friend and all basically doing the same thing......
Cosmological/Doppler Redshift and SMBH's at the center of galaxies being the other two.
Being driven by the agenda such as he has, always leads to the questionable antics, and confusions that he exhibits.
That is simply a fact.
 
Here's the thing that is most pathetic about this, The God. Beyond even the fact that it is your claim that you aren't even attempting to prove, I can go outside right now and look up at the sky and not get blinded by the starlight. You are arguing against reality!

Bad, you are trying to twist the things....dishonest attempt.

All along I have been maintaining that it is a fact that night sky is dark, the night time lux is of the order of 0.001 as against daytime of 100000.....Thats the fact and reality.

The issue is how the mainsream explanation based on those 3 lines, prove the flux of the order of 0.001 ?

It is sad that you do not comprehend the issue and claim to know the proof......If you feel that you can prove the lux of the order of 0.001, this is the right time to salvage yourself.....don't beat around the bush and type it here....
 
So you're saying that a point (which Earth isn't) would get the same amount of light shining on it, regardless of its distance from a light source?
Care to give some clarification on this point, TG?
 
All along I have been maintaining that it is a fact that night sky is dark, the night time lux is of the order of 0.001 as against daytime of 100000.....Thats the fact and reality.
I don't think you've ever stated it, but good to know you aren't completely delusional.
The issue is how the mainsream explanation based on those 3 lines, prove the flux of the order of 0.001 ?

It is sad that you do not comprehend the issue and claim to know the proof......If you feel that you can prove the lux of the order of 0.001, this is the right time to salvage yourself.....don't beat around the bush and type it here....
Your thread, your claim, your responsibility to do the math. But again: I would be delighted to assist you if you want some help. I don't think you do though -- that isn't what this thread is about.
 
All along I have been maintaining that it is a fact that night sky is dark, the night time lux is of the order of 0.001 as against daytime of 100000.....Thats the fact and reality.
The God, as I tried top explain to you in my Post #2 - the "night sky" (atmosphere) is NOT DARK - it is CLEAR.
Again, if you want to understand why : " the night time lux is of the order of 0.001 as against daytime of 100000.....", then you should research Rayleigh Scattering.
 
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