Why Pray?

ancientregime

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If God is omniscient, he will always know what is best to be done. Things that are sinfull make things horrible for humans. God doesn't do things that are sinfull.

I am not omniscient. I can never know what is best for any situation.

Praying means to ask God for something.

Why should I pray, if I don't know what is best to ask for? What is the point?
 
I always wondered that myself. I guess He likes when you make an effort. It's the thought that counts.
 
Pray for yourself

Ancientregime said:

Why should I pray, if I don't know what is best to ask for? What is the point?

Pray for yourself. That's what the system is there for.

Remember, redemptive religion is all about the self. What have you done for your immortal soul lately?
 
Why ask?

Non-Christians don't see any mature reason, so is this rhetorical directed towards Christians?

If it is directed at Christians, they believe in God which is feat in itself. With them, they don't need a reason. They pray for the same reason...they have faith, so why ask? It doesn't need to make sense when you ignore reason because you have faith.

Sorry Christians! You have to choose to have faith in god or not. I would rather not have a choice to believe, and therefore have faith in something seen than to choose to believe and trust something that is unseen. To have faith in god is to pretend that he is real, because for all purposes he must be real in your mind, in order for you to truly have faith. If I ever have faith again, it will because it was given for me to accept...not my choice. It's a universal law to not have a choice to believe if any of what we perceive is honestly real. It's absurd really to try to mess with that law. Yet God asks it, to go against everything we know to be true. Poppycock!

Christians have faith without seeing, hearing, or touching...they're supposed to. Anyway, I have had it with choosing ignorance. It does more harm than good. I will accept the facts. If they someday point to a god, fabulous. I will not pretend anymore. As a Christian it was like playing with an imaginary friend. Well, my imaginary friend is a jerk, so it was easy to choose to accept reality.

What any good Christian would tell you is that you should pray for God's will to be done in the situation.

Some Christians have the notion that God wants a personal relationship, so you are to ask him for things as if he is not omnicscient.

What I think, is that it helps to talk to my dog about a problem. Now, they don't have any way of understanding, but it just helps to voice the concern to someone or something. So, if you are going to pray, just voice your concern. It helps deal with difficult situations...no God required.
 
If God is omniscient, he will always know what is best to be done. Things that are sinfull make things horrible for humans. God doesn't do things that are sinfull.

I am not omniscient. I can never know what is best for any situation.

Praying means to ask God for something.

Why should I pray, if I don't know what is best to ask for? What is the point?

Hence prayer begins to get dynamic when one is not praying for material things.

Many examples are there of prayer to act as guidelines

eg



[Cc. Antya 20.29 - "O my Lord, , I do not pray for benedictions by which to achieve material wealth, popularity or beauty. My only desire is to serve You. Kindly engage me in the service of the servant of Your servant."

Narayana Stotra - "“My dear Lord, I do not wish to become a man of religion or a master of economic development or sense gratification, nor do I wish for liberation. Although I can have all these from You, the supreme bestower of benedictions, I do not pray for any of these. I simply pray that I may always be engaged as a servant of Your lotus feet.”

Damodarastaka 4 "O Lord , although You are able to give all kinds of benedictions, I do not pray to You for the boon of impersonal liberation, nor for the highest liberation of eternal life in Heaven, nor for any other, similar boon. O Lord, I simply wish that this form of Yours may ever be manifest in my heart, for what is the use to me of of any other boon besides this?"


etc etc

thus one tends to see a general position emerge ... and just in case its unclear ....

SB5.51 Lord Rsabhadeva told His sons: My dear boys, of all the living entities who have accepted material bodies in this world, one who has been awarded this human form should not work hard day and night simply for sense gratification, which is available even for dogs and hogs that eat stool. One should engage in penance and austerity to attain the divine position of devotional service. By such activity, one's heart is purified, and when one attains this position, he attains eternal, blissful life, which is transcendental to material happiness and which continues forever.

In short, if one thinks there is nothing to ask god for except material things one really needs to do their homework ...
 
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