Obviously none of understand the FACT that these three are the only 3 that can win. I want you to experiance what a Iraqi experiances. Just that these ppl can't seem to understand that the world doesn't revolve around them, and their expectations. I can't wait until that election, if you thought this was bad, fasten your fucking seats baby!
Who do you want to be in power in Iraq?
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voice of reason
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Stupidest poll ever.
Just for some debate by analogy:
A poll for republicans: What's your favorite pastime?
A) Killing babies
B) Eating dead babies
C) Picking dead babies from your teeth with baby bones
You set up a question that requires an opinion then presented three strict choices that don't encompass all possible choices. Geez, would it be so hard to add a "other" choice.
The second stupidest thing you did was mixed and matched political philosophies and parties as choices. Theocracy is certainly a philosophy and not any particular party, communism could be considered a philosophy or a party, and the Baathists are definately a party and not a philosophy.
Just for some debate by analogy:
A poll for republicans: What's your favorite pastime?
A) Killing babies
B) Eating dead babies
C) Picking dead babies from your teeth with baby bones
You set up a question that requires an opinion then presented three strict choices that don't encompass all possible choices. Geez, would it be so hard to add a "other" choice.
The second stupidest thing you did was mixed and matched political philosophies and parties as choices. Theocracy is certainly a philosophy and not any particular party, communism could be considered a philosophy or a party, and the Baathists are definately a party and not a philosophy.
Maybe nico will finally get his wish
He's been screaming his head off to delete this poll, maybe the mods will do us all a favor and delete the thread. You're right. Useless, ill-construced poll.
I still would like to talk about the Hashemites if anyone is interested.
He's been screaming his head off to delete this poll, maybe the mods will do us all a favor and delete the thread. You're right. Useless, ill-construced poll.
I still would like to talk about the Hashemites if anyone is interested.
The second stupidest thing you did was mixed and matched political philosophies and parties as choices. Theocracy is certainly a philosophy and not any particular party, communism could be considered a philosophy or a party, and the Baathists are definately a party and not a philosophy.
*Barf*= your analysis...
*Barf*= your analysis...
voice of reason
Registered Senior Member
*Barf*= your analysis...
Ohh man.. you sure got me. My analysis = *barf*, that's pretty insightful.
I'm devestated, inconsolable, distraught; I'm not sure how I'll ever be able to show my face after the complete logical dissection of my position. Nico, will you please spare my reputation and honor in front of fellow board members by not making me look so silly.
Why can't you just admit that this is perhaps the dumbest poll question in sciforums history? You know you could just say, ya guys I screwed this one up, I should have had added another option.
Instead you defend an untenable position, exposing your complete contempt for any semblance of logic. I guess I shouldn't have expected anything more from you; I already knew you had the worst grasp of basic economic principles that I've ever observed. (see the WalMart workers underpaid thread)
I guess you probably won't understand those preceding well constructed sentences so I'll place the argument in a form you might understand:
*poopie* = your rebuttal
"Obviously none of understand the FACT that these three are the only 3 that can win"
My understanding of FACT is that Iraq will come apart long before any of these three potential ruling factions can take power. Sadly, I expect that the pressures will be too great for any federal coalition government I can imagine to hold it together. Iraq is mortally wounded, but let's hope for a miracle.
My understanding of FACT is that Iraq will come apart long before any of these three potential ruling factions can take power. Sadly, I expect that the pressures will be too great for any federal coalition government I can imagine to hold it together. Iraq is mortally wounded, but let's hope for a miracle.
hypewaders
SOMEONE with a brain finally talks...indeed the situation in Iraq could fall apart before the elections. Especially when the Shi'a theocrats seem to be on the verge of wining. Hype there is only one viable solution to the Iraqi quagmire, that is to split the country up. The US will eventually have to live with a Shi'a theocracy in one way or another, it would be in the US' best interest to have the theocracy confined to a smaller part of the ME. But the threat is that the theocratic are going to have a border with S.A. that will cause revolutionary pressures on the Kingdom. I personally don't see another Iran-Iraq conflict coming out of this to stop the tide. It's only a eventuality the question is when, and how? Meanwhile we have these repressors squabbling over the truly irrelevancy that is who gets on the short list for voting. Typical cry baby conservatives. What ticks me off is that they don't even have to vote, if they find the thread stupid. All the power to you, but fuck off when it comes to what I want on MY thread.
SOMEONE with a brain finally talks...indeed the situation in Iraq could fall apart before the elections. Especially when the Shi'a theocrats seem to be on the verge of wining. Hype there is only one viable solution to the Iraqi quagmire, that is to split the country up. The US will eventually have to live with a Shi'a theocracy in one way or another, it would be in the US' best interest to have the theocracy confined to a smaller part of the ME. But the threat is that the theocratic are going to have a border with S.A. that will cause revolutionary pressures on the Kingdom. I personally don't see another Iran-Iraq conflict coming out of this to stop the tide. It's only a eventuality the question is when, and how? Meanwhile we have these repressors squabbling over the truly irrelevancy that is who gets on the short list for voting. Typical cry baby conservatives. What ticks me off is that they don't even have to vote, if they find the thread stupid. All the power to you, but fuck off when it comes to what I want on MY thread.
It's a sad subject to think about. I'm all for a pluralistic Iraq, but that's just fantasy with the jockeying for power that is just beginning. There are more internal and external pressures involved here than there than in 1970's Lebanon. Partition is not going to be pretty, and the likelihood of a legitimate multinational force is not great. It's a catastrophe.
It's sad when you want Saddam back...
It really is, but to give Saddam credit is that he kept the thing together. That's what happens when you create states out of imperialistic map making. Not a good sceniro, and not a good outcome. I predict millions dead, and cities scorned. I think cities to watch are Mosul in the north, alas Sarajevo in Bosnia. Surrounded by Kurds, this largely arab sunni sity, no wonder they wanted Saddam back there. Baghdad fireworks will surely happen with the largely Shi'a population (larger then the Sunni) in Saddam city, and the powerful and relatively wealthy sunni arabs in the city as well. The question I pose is how powerful can these groups be? Will they have air power? Will they have armour? Or will this be a pure guerilla war?
It really is, but to give Saddam credit is that he kept the thing together. That's what happens when you create states out of imperialistic map making. Not a good sceniro, and not a good outcome. I predict millions dead, and cities scorned. I think cities to watch are Mosul in the north, alas Sarajevo in Bosnia. Surrounded by Kurds, this largely arab sunni sity, no wonder they wanted Saddam back there. Baghdad fireworks will surely happen with the largely Shi'a population (larger then the Sunni) in Saddam city, and the powerful and relatively wealthy sunni arabs in the city as well. The question I pose is how powerful can these groups be? Will they have air power? Will they have armour? Or will this be a pure guerilla war?
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I think it should be a communist democracy(which is what I voted for, your description of what you meant by it wasn't up at the time), but the fact is, none of these three have a chance of actually taking power anytime in the near future. If there was an open election, you'd be right, and in fact i'd say communist and baathist could pretty much be ruled out too and say it would almost certainly be a theocracy.
Given how things are in reality however, there will be a choice between a few carefully screened pro-western leaders, none of whome will fit into any of these categories, and the winner will be kept in place by mass propaganda campaigns and a constant US military presence.
Given how things are in reality however, there will be a choice between a few carefully screened pro-western leaders, none of whome will fit into any of these categories, and the winner will be kept in place by mass propaganda campaigns and a constant US military presence.
I voted the communist, I think they are the only one left that the US can actually deal with. I mean look at China, that is the "communism" we are going to see in Iraq. Reformed, to capitalistic socialism. I think that the Bath'ists have served their time as holders of Sunni pride. Also i don't want to see a theocracy, eventhough it is the inevitable winner. 
My ten cents...
Nico I'm not going to bore you with this been a stupid poll or what not, no. However I didn't vote for any.
The US is trying to set up its puppet government, which ever suits the US best is the clear winner, anything else will be called a distortion of voting process. Hell Bush did it here in the US what makes any one think they can't do it over there.
So who is going to be in charge?
The one that kissess most ass, that's who. Is it not that what Saddam did with the US to get into power?. No difference, just a different dood, a different year, bla,bla.
Godless.
Nico I'm not going to bore you with this been a stupid poll or what not, no. However I didn't vote for any.
The US is trying to set up its puppet government, which ever suits the US best is the clear winner, anything else will be called a distortion of voting process. Hell Bush did it here in the US what makes any one think they can't do it over there.
So who is going to be in charge?
The one that kissess most ass, that's who. Is it not that what Saddam did with the US to get into power?. No difference, just a different dood, a different year, bla,bla.
Godless.
I say put Sharon in charge to make a real unity out of fragmented Iraq, you wouldn't believe how quickly all those factions would put aside their difference of opinions
And yes Nico , the assembled hyenas are finally having their field day now that the lion has posted a rather stupid poll in a weak moment...
And yes Nico , the assembled hyenas are finally having their field day now that the lion has posted a rather stupid poll in a weak moment...
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It depends .. the way we are setting the pendulum swinging wildly, Iran may become an asset regarding America's better mideast intentions. It's a crazy world.
.. the way we are setting the pendulum swinging wildly, Iran may become an asset regarding America's better mideast intentions. It's a crazy world.Iraq has already swayed Shi'a. Nextdoor in Iran, the Ayatollahs aren't as fashionable as b4, and moderates are upwardly mobile, which is a very welcome thing in my view. Amazing what a few years of self-determination can do.
But alas, Iraq is not likely to be as cohesive as Iran, no matter what happens from here forward.
Funny thought What about putting the Kurds in charge of Iraq???
They are outcast considered by both sjiites and sunnites and turkey alike, exactly why they are most fit for the job???, because they have to be twice as good and responsible, unbiased and tolerant to be accepted....
But I don't see it happening anytime soon:bugeye:
Someone plz split up that country in 3 ways:
- the south to iran
- the center to syria
- the north to the kurds (the turks won't let, ok hell even give the north to turkey, let them show they can be better hosts for the kurds than saddam and receive entry ticket to european community as a reward)
They are outcast considered by both sjiites and sunnites and turkey alike, exactly why they are most fit for the job???, because they have to be twice as good and responsible, unbiased and tolerant to be accepted....
But I don't see it happening anytime soon:bugeye:
Someone plz split up that country in 3 ways:
- the south to iran
- the center to syria
- the north to the kurds (the turks won't let, ok hell even give the north to turkey, let them show they can be better hosts for the kurds than saddam and receive entry ticket to european community as a reward)
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