White Supremacists Gain Ground in Fortress Amerikkka

I see. So a foreigner threatens you just like foreigners threaten indigenous Europeans but any European that complains about it is a Nazi?

Please explain the chain of thought that led you to the conclusion - I genuinely don't understand it it. Thanks.
 
I remember reading a link about it a while ago. Got a recent one I could look at?

It sounds like a very stupid idea. The US and Canada would have to absorb a poor country along with their shitty infrastructure, different language, crime and corruption. Canada seems to be chugging along pretty well, so I've got no idea why they'd want to join the US, let alone Mexico.

You say efforts are being made behind the scenes. Behind the scenes where - government? By who exactly or is it just another conspiracy?

http://www.newswithviews.com/Evensen/greg8.htm

WARNING: THE END OF AMERICA AS WE KNOW IT IS AT HAND

By Greg Evensen

February 5, 2007

NewsWithViews.com

The Patriot's Preamble

"Let it be known far and wide that American Patriots will come together in the year 2007, to unite the citizens and statesmen of the Republic of the United States of America. They will gather with the purpose of maintaining our nation's sovereignty, to reinstate our Constitutional and Natural Rights, and to free the American people from institutional servitude. They will come to pursue this course with Honor, Dignity, and Courage, while acknowledging that unless God keeps our nation and guides her steps, we will have labored in vain."

The United States of America and its citizenry has been assessed, warned, plotted against, and sold out by internationalists in government, business, and the banking industry. Its workforce has been decimated, its standard of living shredded and its working people made financial slaves through unjust taxation, socialist government practices, rules and regulations at all levels in society that would make any communist dictator grin with envy.

Our role as partners in governmental affairs has been reduced to a whisper that is not heard by any elected official anywhere—with very, very few exceptions. Our representative government has become 535 regional dictators who live a life of luxury, self-importance and as arrogant master over the populace. The congress of the United States has carefully exempted itself from virtually all repressive laws they choose not to adhere to and have given themselves retirement pensions, health care and other perks, the rest of us can only dream of. They have become the Duma (Soviet Parliament) types who exemplify nothing other than crass selfishness at the expense of every American working citizen.

The Bush Administration has been pursuing a blending of Canada, America and Mexico into the “North American Union.” They have done it under the cover of governmental darkness. They have been running a race as to how fast they can manipulate our great nation into a “no going back” strategic position with these other two nations. The president and his cabal of sell-out White House/Congressional turncoats have intentionally kept the American people in a state of confusion (war on terror, etc.) so that organized resistance to this national sovereignty killing plan can not be formulated. Business and banking interests are salivating at the thought of trillions of dollars in “free trade” being exchanged throughout North America.
 
Of course it's a stupid idea (for Americans and Canadians) but it is no more stupid than leaving the border wide open and letting millions of Mexicans into the country (including whatever terrorists want to as well). Why do you think the American "government" doesn't mind the huge tidal wave of illegals coming here? Because the more that are here the less difference joining Mexico will make to the average American.

As for who is behind it, start with the Council for Foreign Relations (the same people who got us into Iraq).

The borders aren't open though. Not officially.

You say tidal waves. How many get through each day?

How did the Council for Foreign Relations get the US into Iraq?
Do you have a link about the proposed three-way country thing?
 
Please explain the chain of thought that led you to the conclusion - I genuinely don't understand it it. Thanks.

One of the complaints of KKK types is that foreigners (3rd world immigrants) come to America and commit crime against whites far out of proportion to their numbers. So don't complain about foreigners assaulting you unless you want to be called a Nazi.
 
The borders aren't open though. Not officially.

So big fucking deal. I'd rather have the border officially open with no one coming through than officially closed with thousands crossing every day.

You say tidal waves. How many get through each day?

I would say at least a million a year.

http://www.numbersusa.com/interests/illegalimm.html

Census 2000 results indicate that there between 8 and 11 million illegal aliens living in the United States in 2000. The Center for Immigration Studies has reported that Census Bureau stats show that 700,000 to 800,000 new illegal aliens were settling in the U.S. during the late 1990s and that around 1 million settled in the most recent year of record. Far more than that enter illegally each year, but there is a lot of back and forth. The 1 million represents illegals who truly settle in for at least a couple of years, and usually much, much longer.

How did the Council for Foreign Relations get the US into Iraq? Do you have a link about the proposed three-way country thing?

A tiny (Jewish) minority own most of the media in the USA and AIPAC (a foreign Jewish lobby group) is the biggest contributer to the two major parties. Our politicians do as they are told or the media and big money turns on them.

edit: see this new thread

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=62921
 
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What others think of me is none of my business - we have a well-established law of land applicable to all regardless of ethnicity or culture.
Many immigrants to the UK are used to the norms of their previous culture and experience culture shock in our liberal secular society - this is the big failing of multiculturalism.

Any labellers should save their Nazi epitaphs for the real horror that is Nazism...don't believe me then find the film of the first troops to enter Belsen.
 
Greg Evens (count sudoku's link) said:
There is NO TIME LEFT for you to take the luxury of non-involvement. You will face a time when you will give an account to your family as to why you couldn't or wouldn't take the time to educate yourself about your nation’s sacred history. You will stand alone as the verdict comes in that you were negligent in NOT preparing to protect and care for your family and friends during military government (Martial Law) because of a “terrorist” attack, financial/stock market collapse or any other number of possibilities real or contrived that gives the government the justification for arrest and indefinite incarceration in detention camps already built for you and your loved ones. THEY ALREADY EXIST!! These detention/ re-education camps are for those who aren't willing to submit to the new global order that is about to be established.

Precisely because you are uninformed and intentionally ignorant, you will blindly board the truck that takes you to your likely last destination. You will trust the government to help you one last time. Some of you will stumble around the camp looking for your welfare check, prescription drugs or how you can contact the nearest legal defense or ACLU attorney so that you can take the camp commander to court for mistreatment. You, who I have just described, deserve a detention camp. “…..may your chains rest lightly upon your wrists.”

You think this will happen?

Greg's opinion sounds like bullshit to me. As do most of the opinions on that site.

http://www.newswithviews.com/PaulProctor/proctor112.htm

Lovely. These Christians really need to find better things to do in their retirement. Putting your opinions about possible conspiracys on the internet and actively looking for unchristian material in christian bookshops aren't that productive.
 
You think this will happen?

Greg's opinion sounds like bullshit to me. As do most of the opinions on that site.

http://www.newswithviews.com/PaulProctor/proctor112.htm

Lovely. These Christians really need to find better things to do in their retirement. Putting your opinions about possible conspiracys on the internet and actively looking for unchristian material in christian bookshops aren't that productive.

I don't know if it will happen or not but I do know this is what they want and what they are trying for.
 
What the F does this have to do with libertarianism? The One World government that Fraggle wants is the total opposite of libertarianism.
I don't especially want a giant world government, unless libertarianism catches on and governments become less intrusive. But it doesn't have to be that way. The EU is becoming one community without giving up their regional identities. Americans and Canadians, for all practical purposes, are one people but we have two very sovereign governments. I don't know about the Quebecois, they seem a tiny bit resistant to transcendence by my standards. South America shows promise of growing into one community and they'll never give up their sovereignty.

The greatest resistance to transcendence these days is in the Middle East. Something about Islam apparently fosters tribalism instead of nationalism.

All anybody had to do was kill 3,000 Americans in one day and we started pulling together. Giant American flags got stapled over the giant Confederate flags in bars immediately. In the face of adversity we rally together.

On the other hand, some retard began attacking Iraq, and the people immediately reverted to tribalism and began killing each other. Talk about resistance to transcendence.
 
On the other hand, some retard began attacking Iraq, and the people immediately reverted to tribalism and began killing each other. Talk about resistance to transcendence.

Civil war is a common occurrence following occupation/oppression/colonisation.

The Iraqis have been long overdue.
 
I don't especially want a giant world government, unless libertarianism catches on and governments become less intrusive. But it doesn't have to be that way. The EU is becoming one community without giving up their regional identities. Americans and Canadians, for all practical purposes, are one people but we have two very sovereign governments. I don't know about the Quebecois, they seem a tiny bit resistant to transcendence by my standards. South America shows promise of growing into one community and they'll never give up their sovereignty.

The EU is a giant bureaucratic socialist nightmare.

The greatest resistance to transcendence these days is in the Middle East. Something about Islam apparently fosters tribalism instead of nationalism.

Don't worry, Europe is turning muslim so they'll be united in that sense by the end of the century.

All anybody had to do was kill 3,000 Americans in one day and we started pulling together. Giant American flags got stapled over the giant Confederate flags in bars immediately. In the face of adversity we rally together.

This country is getting more divided as time goes on because of multicult. When the Mexicans get numerous enough in the SW they want to separate and create a new country.

On the other hand, some retard began attacking Iraq, and the people immediately reverted to tribalism and began killing each other. Talk about resistance to transcendence.

Immediately reverted to tribalism? They were always tribal and the only thing that stopped civil war breaking out earlier was a strong dictator like Saddam Hussein who occasionally killed thousands of people at once to get the message out not to fuck around.
 
When the Mexicans get numerous enough in the SW they want to separate and create a new country.
Apparently you haven't lived in "Aztlán" long enough to notice how it really works. They out-marry almost as fast as they immigrate, something like 50% in the first generation. By the third generation it's almost impossible to find anyone who identify themselves as "Mexican-Americans" or "Mexicans." There will never be enough Mexicans in the region to build up any realistic support for a separatist movement because their children happily move out into the mainstream and stop being Mexicans. Haven't you noticed that the top radio station in L.A. that plays Latin American music now has English-speaking DJs? The younger generation does not consider it cool to even speak Spanish any more.
 
That is a promising trend in UK society - in some ethnic groups there has been a tremendous acceptance and fusion with UK tradition and culture and this is the dynamic the makes the UK a great cosmopolitan place. The 'New Britain' is multi-coloured with lots of 'flavours'...people get on. Also theres a great tradition of settled immigrant communities that retain the traditions and practice of their native culture e.g. chinatown, Indian communities, Polish people.
The problem lies in seperatism and a rejection of UK culture if it doesn't conform to the ideology of some native cultures. Last year over £100 million uk pounds was spent on translation services while UK ethnics are dying for lack of medicines and hospital beds, schools are in disrepair, etc.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6174303.stm
 
That is a promising trend in UK society - in some ethnic groups there has been a tremendous acceptance and fusion with UK tradition and culture and this is the dynamic the makes the UK a great cosmopolitan place. The 'New Britain' is multi-coloured with lots of 'flavours'...people get on. Also theres a great tradition of settled immigrant communities that retain the traditions and practice of their native culture e.g. chinatown, Indian communities, Polish people.
The problem lies in seperatism and a rejection of UK culture if it doesn't conform to the ideology of some native cultures. Last year over £100 million uk pounds was spent on translation services while UK ethnics are dying for lack of medicines and hospital beds, schools are in disrepair, etc.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6174303.stm

Doesn't the majority of Scottish and English people now want separation from each other?

As for your celebrated diversity...

http://www.majorityrights.com/

http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/tired_and_liberal_in_peckham/

Tired and liberal in Peckham

"Guns plague Peckham despite investment” complains the headline from an article on the BBC website written in the aftermath of a mini-catalogue of black violence in SE London.

The dilapidated flats might be gone, but the criminals who lurked have not - they just got younger.

Seven years after the death of 10-year-old Damilola Taylor in a stairwell in the North Peckham estate in south-east London, violence still plagues the area.

Replacing rows of rundown high-rise flats and maisonettes are 2,000 new homes, a new sports centre, a new leisure centre and award-winning library, thanks to a £290m regeneration investment.

Peckham, which has tried much to shake off its mean streets image in the last decade, has once again hit the headlines because of acts of violence.

The acts of violence have involved two fatal shootings and a stabbing, all performed with the tell-tale heedlessness of the black gang-killer. The familiar press references to the Met’s Operation Trident complete the picture.

That BBC headline has about it the melancholy of inevitability. For the Establishment hand-wringers, the investment-mongers, the blank-slate idealists this is bad, bad news. An awful suspicion hangs in the air. Can nothing break the black attachment to mayhem? I mean, if building them an award-winning new library and even filling the Bellendon area with posh street art by Zandra Rhodes and Anthony Gormley doesn’t transform them all into model citizens, what more will it take?

And beneath it all lurks the still darker, indeed unbearably dark and depressing possibility that the racist bastards were right all along: blacks are irredeemable, and all those enthusiastically right-on genuflections to the gods of diversity ...

If you’re looking for a real multi-cultural experience and a slice of authentic South London life, Camberwell and Peckham will be right up your street. Here you’ll discover multi-faith, multi-ethnic London at its rich, colourful best — charged with the energy of regeneration, investment and economic uplift.

... that seemed such a gas at the time will come back to haunt and humiliate everyone.

Everyone but the racists, obviously.

Well, maybe not quite everyone because here’s a brave article by Leo McKinstry, a former aid to Peckham’s MP, Harriet Harman. He, at least, can hold his head high.

He wrote the piece five long years ago. Obviously, it achieved absolutely nothing at the time. Now, it reads like one long-reminder that there are no new lessons in matters of human nature.

In Peckham, there is no such thing as society

THE word “community” is one of the most over-used in modern Britain. Yet it can never have been more badly misplaced than in the hand-wringing debate over the death of Damilola Taylor.

Since the end of the trial last week, there have been continual references to the “community” on the North Peckham estate where the 10-year-old boy died. But community implies solidarity, shared identity, mutual concern. Such values have been entirely absent from North Peckham, where social breakdown, fear and aggression predominate.

It was this lack of any true community spirit, not police incompetence, that denied Damilola justice. By remaining silent, local people ruined the chances of an effective prosecution. That is why it is so grotesque to attack the police. “The whole community knows who did it. The police did not do a good job,” says the local “community leader” Gary Barnett, failing to explain why residents failed to share this knowledge with the authorities.

I have seen for myself how the absence of any communal feelings has destroyed the social fabric of this south London estate.

... The place certainly lived down to its dismal reputation. Throughout this concrete warren of despair, there were burnt-out flats, broken lifts, piles of rubbish, abandoned cars, used needles, and smashed windows. Vandalism and drug-taking seemed the two most popular activities on the estate. Because of the roaming gangs, the sense of fear was almost palpable.

... Many locals say that this intervention has achieved little. “You still have the same things going on, the stabbings, the stealing,” says Uanu Seshmi from one local project for “excluded children”. Indeed, despite the lavish spending, crime has worsened. The grim reality of Peckham is that you can change the buildings, but that will not change the people. All the high quality housing and shiny new computers will do nothing to break the cycle of fecklessness, irresponsibility and thuggery.

... There is an even more disturbing truth about Peckham which is rarely voiced. For decades, the political establishment has enthused about the “rich multi-cultural diversity” of modern Britain, but in north Peckham, where more than 70 per cent of the population is from ethnic minorities, the picture looks very different. In contrast to the propaganda spouted by liberal ideologues living in all-white neighbourhoods, Peckham exposes the darker side of mass immigration: gang violence, drug-dealing, muggings, shootings, and disruption in school.

It is time we stopped pretending multi-culturalism has been an unqualified benefit to society. In areas like Peckham, there is nothing “rich” about diversity.

In those five years that 70% immigrant figure will have increased substantially. The white natives have gone, and their, of course, so shamefully racist attitudes with them. Liberal guilt and Jewish self-interest have won in Peckham. But now there are no more excuses left for all those little things blacks get up to. What’s a hand-wringer to do? Carry on ignoring McInstry’s warning - “The grim reality of Peckham is that you can change the buildings, but that will not change the people” - and spend another £290 million? And another, like a high-roller on a losing streak?

My feeling is that the managerial Establishment will look for an answer in its own self-interest. It will try to produce some response that maintains its status, perhaps finding justifications for more thaumaturgy, more expenditure in new and hitherto undreamt of formulations of social concern (white responsibility for the absent black father?) and new definitions of deprivation (white responsibility for the paucity of black male role models?). It will certainly not give up now. It will require a righteous English hand to do the decent thing one day, and decapitate it.

Posted by Guessedworker on Thursday, February 8, 2007 at 12:30 AM in Immigration
 
As Count Sudoku has presented many times before, cries of "racism" is just a tool that is employed by those with no arguments in order to silence debate, on account of the fact that they have managed to basically brainwash people into an irrational fear of "racism" as the ultimate evil.
 
Methinks you've indeed caught the Baron bug.



Keep telling yourself that.



Give that up already.

I stopped reading your post at that point. It's obvious you're not serious about this discussion. I will not respond to any more posts from you on this particular topic, or any if you resort to this sort of bullshit again.

This is the response of a weak-minded and dishonest person. Goethe was right about your ilk.
 
As Count Sudoku has presented many times before, cries of "racism" is just a tool that is employed by those with no arguments in order to silence debate, on account of the fact that they have managed to basically brainwash people into an irrational fear of "racism" as the ultimate evil.

Cries of "free speech" and "freedom of association" are just a tool that is employed by racists with no arguments in order to try to justify their promulgation of bigotry.
 
Cries of "free speech" and "freedom of association" are just a tool that is employed by racists with no arguments in order to try to justify their promulgation of bigotry.

We have plenty of arguments and what's more they are right. It's types like James R who need to censor and punish the opposition for their views because their bullshit cannot withstand scrunity.

Oh, and if there were white only cities, states and countries, do you think there would be any lack of demand from white people to live in them?
 
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