When somebody in Pakistan asks you to marry them
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Unsupported waffle. Are you on something?
Wait a second! When did we go from "white people" to "white peoples"?
You've gone off on a tangent onto a different topic. Are you on something?
No they don't. Are you on something?
WillNever
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Then go take a look at good old mother Africa. Rwanda, Zaire, Sudan, Darfur, Congo, you name it, and it's a mess of black on black atrocities. And let's not forget the fact that contrary to the revisionist view that white "slave-catchers" ventured into the interior of Africa to capture human capital, the North Atlantic slave trade was begun and perpetuated by African tribes who raided other tribes who never did a single bad thing to hurt them, and then sold the captives to Europeans in exchange for swords, guns, and venereal disease.
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And the ones who do so, consider themselves as a bit more white than the others, too. e.g. the Brahmins who massacre the Dalits think they are Aryans, the "Arabs" who kill the blacks in Darfur think they are more white
You ever seen the Janjaweed Arabs? To an untrained eye he might look just like a black African but to himself he's an Arab, different from those darkies he's trying to liberate.
Here is one:
Thats all it takes really. You do know that the Irish have only recently become white? Its all a matter of thinking you are and you get to become one and act like one.
Here is an interesting deconstruction of British values
http://www.ons.gov.uk/census/2011-census/index.html
You're making the same mistake SAM made. You start by making a silly claim about what "coloured people" in general do, then you perform a bait and switch and pick out a few war-torn poor nations ruled by gangs. Can you see where you're going wrong? Or is your general racism blinding you?
This is obviously some fantasy you've picked up somewhere. Maybe you should stop reading racist websites.
Why is it a mistake? I simply subsituted Muslims for whites. With 1 in 4 people in the world being Muslims, its a fair parallel. Plus, the history of whites responds more closely to my claims than Michaels individuals cases plastered across all Muslims.
So the bus driver who wouldn't stop for me at a bus stop but stopped a little further on down the road for a white student was dong it because I was anti-American?
And the woman who politely showed me the door telling me I wouldn't find anything to my liking in her store did it because of my anti-western attitude?
As a woman of colour, the last place I would have expected to be shown the door was in the good ole US of A. So don't be pushing it on me. I used to have illusions about the broadminded western societies as well. It was my first ever experience of racism and I come from a very conservative society myself. Even the Saudis know how to treat a person better than thatinspite of the fact that there is no pretence of "enlightened peoples" there
Well, it wasn't about that. Sam brings a...unique flavour to discussions.
Anyway: it occurs pretty widely and it's not a "poor country" issue. An Egyptian friend of mine told me how she saw a woman get hit with acid in the street for not wearing a veil, apparently. Really shook her up. I suppose it would be best to have some kind of statistics about this sort of thing. (That way, Sam could demean it by comparing it to casualties in Iraq.)
I suppose the issue at play is societal horror at the idea that it could come here. There's little point denying that "it" "wants" to - look at the comments of Khaddafi as an example. The idea that legal religious means could be used to eliminate people's rights on the flimsiest basis. An Orwellian nightmare of a jackboot on a human face for all eternity, worn by an imaginary god. Imagine Pat Robertson getting in as President and deciding to make his office Presidente-For-Life, then going after his ideological enemies and anyone situated outside his worldview.
Anyway: it occurs pretty widely and it's not a "poor country" issue. An Egyptian friend of mine told me how she saw a woman get hit with acid in the street for not wearing a veil, apparently. Really shook her up. I suppose it would be best to have some kind of statistics about this sort of thing. (That way, Sam could demean it by comparing it to casualties in Iraq.)
I suppose the issue at play is societal horror at the idea that it could come here. There's little point denying that "it" "wants" to - look at the comments of Khaddafi as an example. The idea that legal religious means could be used to eliminate people's rights on the flimsiest basis. An Orwellian nightmare of a jackboot on a human face for all eternity, worn by an imaginary god. Imagine Pat Robertson getting in as President and deciding to make his office Presidente-For-Life, then going after his ideological enemies and anyone situated outside his worldview.
So the bus driver who wouldn't stop for me at a bus stop but stopped a little further on down the road for a white student was dong it because I was anti-American?
And the woman who politely showed me the door telling me I wouldn't find anything to my liking in her store did it because of my anti-western attitude? As a woman of colour, the last place I would have expected to be shown the door was in the good ole US of A. So don't be pushing it on me. I used to have illusions about the broadminded western societies as well.
Because it was law that you not read books or catch buses?
Lets say I put the behaviour of individuals over what is enshrined in law. I think human quality comes across much better in interactions than it does in books.
Post America, its my belief that any society where whites are in power cannot really escape racism. After all, America is the best there is offer in integration of whites. And this is where I first experienced it.
Post America, its my belief that any society where whites are in power cannot really escape racism. After all, America is the best there is offer in integration of whites. And this is where I first experienced it.