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"What is your definition of the word “Islam”?"
When Michael asked this question:
I had to ask, if both “islam” and “peace” have the same root word in arabic, with “islam” actually meaning submission, does that mean that the only peace in islam is when you surrender?
This strangely sounds like “zen” on paper, but in practice means conquest for those infidels that have been on the frontiers with islam. There is no peace for the infidel until they surrender & submit to islam., see below:
And the funny thing about islam, is that the very next verse in the quran deals with ‘war booty’, it's as if, Mohammad was preparing for the infidel wars, by making sure the plunder was divvied up. That’s slick., check this out:
When Michael asked this question:
What is your definition of the word “Islam”?
I had to ask, if both “islam” and “peace” have the same root word in arabic, with “islam” actually meaning submission, does that mean that the only peace in islam is when you surrender?
This strangely sounds like “zen” on paper, but in practice means conquest for those infidels that have been on the frontiers with islam. There is no peace for the infidel until they surrender & submit to islam., see below:
From: http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/008.qmt.html008.038
YUSUFALI: Say to the Unbelievers, if (now) they desist (from Unbelief), their past would be forgiven them; but if they persist, the punishment of those before them is already (a matter of warning for them).
PICKTHAL: Tell those who disbelieve that if they cease (from persecution of believers) that which is past will be forgiven them; but if they return (thereto) then the example of the men of old hath already gone (before them, for a warning).
SHAKIR: Say to those who disbelieve, if they desist, that which is past shall be forgiven to them; and if they return, then what happened to the ancients has already passed.
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YUSUFALI: And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah altogether and everywhere; but if they cease, verily Allah doth see all that they do.
PICKTHAL: And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is all for Allah. But if they cease, then lo! Allah is Seer of what they do.
SHAKIR: And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah; but if they desist, then surely Allah sees what they do.
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YUSUFALI: If they refuse, be sure that Allah is your Protector - the best to protect and the best to help.
PICKTHAL: And if they turn away, then know that Allah is your Befriender - a Transcendent Patron, a Transcendent Helper!
SHAKIR: And if they turn back, then know that Allah is your Patron; most excellent is the Patron and most excellent the Helper.
And the funny thing about islam, is that the very next verse in the quran deals with ‘war booty’, it's as if, Mohammad was preparing for the infidel wars, by making sure the plunder was divvied up. That’s slick., check this out:
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YUSUFALI: And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah,- and to the Messenger, and to near relatives, orphans, the needy, and the wayfarer,- if ye do believe in Allah and in the revelation We sent down to Our servant on the Day of Testing,- the Day of the meeting of the two forces. For Allah hath power over all things.
PICKTHAL: And know that whatever ye take as spoils of war, lo! a fifth thereof is for Allah, and for the messenger and for the kinsman (who hath need) and orphans and the needy and the wayfarer, if ye believe in Allah and that which We revealed unto Our slave on the Day of Discrimination, the day when the two armies met. And Allah is Able to do all things.
SHAKIR: And know that whatever thing you gain, a fifth of it is for Allah and for the Messenger and for the near of kin and the orphans and the needy and the wayfarer, if you believe in Allah and in that which We revealed to Our servant, on the day of distinction, the day on which the two parties met; and Allah has power over all things.