what is this country comming to
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I agree that it is difficult to draw the line, but it seems to me that almost the only purpose of this shirt was to offend. Even "Bush is an idiot" shirts have a political purpose.
Of course, such shirts also label their wearers as idiots.
I don't know. This is difficult.
my own view is that the defult should be to NOT censor things. If someone was offended then maybe the police had a reason to intervine but as far as i can tell this was just an officer who initiated INCASE someone was offened. Why did he charge the kid rather than just pulling him aside and saying "look dont you think that shirt might be offencive, why dont you change it"
Maybe we could make up some t-shirts with a picture of his mother on them describing how much she enjoys bestiality. See how he likes that. It's all in good fun, right?
i was thinking something similar. is it possible to destroy common sense by not using it? i am worried the evolution will provide us with people who have no common sense at all.
i am referring to things that should be obvious to humans will no longer be understood or known.
john this is rather irrelivent to a thread that is about freedom of expression but there is a movie about de evolution called idiocrasy.
Its theory goes that as the intelligent people arnt having children or are only having one or 2 and the "stupid" are having upwards of 6 children (on adverage) natural selection favors the idots.
wether its right or not time will tell but thankfully we wont be around to see it
Its theory goes that as the intelligent people arnt having children or are only having one or 2 and the "stupid" are having upwards of 6 children (on adverage) natural selection favors the idots.
wether its right or not time will tell but thankfully we wont be around to see it
john this is rather irrelivent to a thread that is about freedom of expression but there is a movie about de evolution called idiocrasy.
Its theory goes that as the intelligent people arnt having children or are only having one or 2 and the "stupid" are having upwards of 6 children (on adverage) natural selection favors the idots.
wether its right or not time will tell but thankfully we wont be around to see it
Well i agree with you there but come on, some things are just common sense. Besides all these new bands really suck and all they try to do is be more ourageous than the last but if your music is horrible than what is the point. Marilyn Manson...one or two good songs but after awhile it was like "you really have no talent, you stole everything from Alice Cooper except for his sense of humor and the ability to carry a tune"
john as i said i dont really care about the case itself. Its the president that i find highly alarming,
Take for instance all the slogans that were going around at the start of the iraq war
"no blood for oil"
"Bush is a monkey man" (ok that one was a graphic rather than a verbal) ect
Read the end of the artical,
"taking the lords name in vain is a sin" umm sorry but wasnt everyone critising the responce to the danish cartoons simply because it offended a religion was no reason to ban them?
Then go further down and look at what the lawyer wrote. Its THAT bit i find the most scary
Things never start big, first off the start censoring swearing, then its things that could cause offence, then in the end we have a dictatorship where anything said that the goverment doesnt like lands you in jail (or worse)
Personally i would rather the offencive swearing than burma
Take for instance all the slogans that were going around at the start of the iraq war
"no blood for oil"
"Bush is a monkey man" (ok that one was a graphic rather than a verbal) ect
Read the end of the artical,
"taking the lords name in vain is a sin" umm sorry but wasnt everyone critising the responce to the danish cartoons simply because it offended a religion was no reason to ban them?
Then go further down and look at what the lawyer wrote. Its THAT bit i find the most scary
Things never start big, first off the start censoring swearing, then its things that could cause offence, then in the end we have a dictatorship where anything said that the goverment doesnt like lands you in jail (or worse)
Personally i would rather the offencive swearing than burma
It's funny that you speak of devolution and then bands. Ever hear of Devo?
The name is short for Devolution. They felt the same way as you.
Yes. I didnt know that is what their name meant. Bands after the late 80s seemed to have forgotten that music is an art form and political statements should be secondary. It is like "well ll we have to do is be outrageous and fakers while we collect the cash" oh "i hate society, but i like having nine bank accounts."
Cool
How explicit was the masturbation?
Oh. Wait. Um, yeah. That's hilarious. A bit pornographic, but hilarious. What crushes me, though, is that people seem to be focusing on the "Jesus is a cunt" part. In the U.S., you'd have a better chance of prosecuting the masturbation. The kid could end up on our sex-offender registry for exposing children to pornography.
Then again, I don't think a jury would convict.
But, yeah. What the hell is up with Australia these days? Back in '91-92, I worked with this guy who'd immigrated from Australia, and he was always telling me how fucked up our American "free" speech was, talking about some radio station—Triple J?—that apparently put American pop radio to shame. Of course, that was back when the gasping fish in the Faith No More video was controversial, so ....
How explicit was the masturbation?
Oh. Wait. Um, yeah. That's hilarious. A bit pornographic, but hilarious. What crushes me, though, is that people seem to be focusing on the "Jesus is a cunt" part. In the U.S., you'd have a better chance of prosecuting the masturbation. The kid could end up on our sex-offender registry for exposing children to pornography.
Then again, I don't think a jury would convict.
But, yeah. What the hell is up with Australia these days? Back in '91-92, I worked with this guy who'd immigrated from Australia, and he was always telling me how fucked up our American "free" speech was, talking about some radio station—Triple J?—that apparently put American pop radio to shame. Of course, that was back when the gasping fish in the Faith No More video was controversial, so ....
maybe the cop was offended? if someone were walking down the street naked and the cop didn't mind, should the cop follow him, wait until someone expresses their offense, and then make the arrest/whatever? i don't want to be exaggerating things, but the shirt did have a nun masturbating on it, and the word cunt. i mean the cop that stopped him wearing that shirt probably saved him being slapped/punched in the face.
the punishment for the individual will deter others. i think he could have been asked politely for the first incident, but the second should carry a punishment. that said, how will a different policeman know the kid's been warned without a lot of paperwork?
edit: just checked the link (courtesy tiassa): wow. that is full on. that's a step above softcore, though if it wasn't a nun i don't think people would find it as offensive.
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